Actually rookie QBs have been getting a lot of coaches fired recently. bears, titans, patriots, panthers, jaguars, all fired their HC after drafting a rookie QB, all very recently. so this notion that a rookie QB is going to save Glenn's job, or that he is going to push for one for that reason is just wrong
Yes, but Woody… Any objective rational person who just watched the season would have fired AG already for all the things you mentioned and more, but don’t underestimate Woody’s incompetence and stupidity
Totally true…a terrible coach is a terrible coach and for a rookie to save that job he’d have to be on par with Elway or Peyton However, I DO believe that coaches on the hot seat look for excuses to stay, and telling an owner that he needs to have patience to develop the newly drafted QB is a great excuse…not saying it works, but just saying I think that’s the mindset of a coach on the hot seat…a rookie QB brings some level of hope and excitement to the season that a stopgap free agent like a Minshew or a Fields just doesn’t. All that being said, I would be absolutely ok trading a second or third for Davis Mills or signing Willis and then using the #2 overall for either an impact non-QB player, drafting a guy like Moore to sit behind a vet and develop, or trading down for more picks…I would NOT want to go after Kyler Murray as he is just not a great leader and would not work out here, nor do I want Mac Jones as he was a product of Shanahan’s coaching and would also fail here. I am super happy that we ended with the 2nd pick instead of the third, as it means that IF Moore declares, this is a 2 QB class and we wouldn’t have to trade up for whichever QB the Raiders pass on…
Look at my posts - I have never said once that I want Moore. In fact I have a lot of posts showing I'm skeptical of him. But that's what you guys do - your opinions are based on nothing. No evidence. You want Glenn back for reasons unclear, historically bad season be damned. And again, very few people here are banging the table for Moore, we're just saying that we are likely to draft him based on our front office trying to save their jobs. We're not saying drafting Moore is the right thing to do, just that it's the thing that is likely to happen in the real world because every front office prioritizes job security over the long-term future of the team. Get a grip dude.
Most of those cases were the rookie QBs getting drafted to those teams because they were trash teams and so had trash coaches. The coaches were getting fired regardless.
Glenn has a 5 year contract, unique in this environment, he's getting paid for 5 years worth of work whether he's fired or not. Obviously, he wants to be successful of course, but I dont think he's thinking I need to do this or that with the QB position as an "excuse" to Woody Johnson. But if he's pulling out desperate moves to save his job then it wouldn't it be for a veteran and not a rookie? Who is more likely to take this sad sack team and improve its win total, a rookie or a veteran? Obviously the veteran.
They are trash. But you said the rookie QBs were getting coaches fired, and that's not what was happening.
No, because the main benefit of a rookie QB for a bad coach is being able to scapegoat the QB for the team's failures. If the rookie QB sucks, you can plausibly claim he just needs more time, which is also an implicit claim that you the coach just need more time.
Bullshit. Many people are pining for Moore on here, don't kid yourself. It's all over these boards. The funny part is that I can tell many people here don't watch college ball or even understand it. If you did you would realize that Mendoza is in a class of his own this year. I've seen many on here keep throwing it out there like hmmm who should we take at 2 if both are available. Well I got news for you and everyone else on this board. Mendoza is going #1 to the Raiders and it's not even close. I said this before the playoffs games last wekend and it just proved out my statement even further. He put even more distance between himself and the field, not that he had to as he literally dominated college football this year. Moore isn't on Mendoza's level as a prospect coming out. Maybe he will turn into a better pro but he is unequivocally below Mendoza at this point in time. I had to make this clear to put all that silliness to rest about which one we should take. GTFO with that. It's moot. Who says Glenn is fighting for his job? Do you have a link to any report of that? Because besides all of the smoke out there which are the talking heads, the media and social media, I haven't seen one high level source say that Aaron Glenn and Mougey are fighting for their jobs next year. That's what many like you want, but it's completely unsubstantiated and just your hope. That's the shtick you and others want to plant here to make it sound like the Front Office is being put into a corner and they will have to take a QB to save their jobs. I don't buy that at all.
What on earth are you talking about? I have many posts where I say this is a 1 QB draft with Mendoza being that 1 QB. You are literally just making things up. Go read my posts if you don't believe me. I have never said I wanted Moore. Here, I'll make it even easier for you: https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/2026-draft-qb-prospects.100902/page-35#post-4470112 https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/2026-draft-qb-prospects.100902/page-61#post-4477642 https://forums.theganggreen.com/thr...-tankathon-thread.101009/page-32#post-4477835 https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/2026-draft-qb-prospects.100902/page-60#post-4477625 https://forums.theganggreen.com/thr...s-at-buffalo-bills.101200/page-2#post-4478166 https://forums.theganggreen.com/thr...-tankathon-thread.101009/page-26#post-4477513 All I'm saying is there's a strong chance we take Moore, even if I don't want him, because our front office is on the hot seat and a rookie QB makes for a great scapegoat.
right and as I’ve shared, that’s a misconception. Several teams have been and are continuing to reject that claim
Fair enough and your logic makes sense. I just think after several high profile failures in just the last 5-7 years with Darnold and Zach, that we will be more cognizant of these recent scars and think otherwise. But you could absolutely be right. We shall see.
Can’t put it past Woody to take a QB, warranted or not, just to spin a positive outlook on next season.
I personally like Moore and Mendoza both. I would pick them whether we have Glenn or Kubiak or whoever as a coach. I think it is a 2 QB draft. By this time I have watched a lot of College ball with these guys, and with Moore I do understand he has fewer than desired number of starts, which is why every game is important, including the one coming up. on Friday, which I am looking forward to very much. But why are you saying people who like Moore do not watch College ball though? He is consensus #2 on the big board by all publications: https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2026/consensus-big-board-2026 . Even #1 on Mel Kiper and McShea who watch a lot of ball. Connor Rodgers likes him a lot, Trevor Sikkema. They watch all the games. If you have some specific points, sure, but general point that you are the minority, therefore you are wrong is not even true. Majority think highly of him. And I know we have PTSD from Zach and Fields, but Moore is not comparable to them. He his a different prospect. Yes, he has a big arm, but that is not a bad thing, and his processor is just different. He has a lot of anticipation, reads the field quickly. That was a big problem with the other two. I am not saying he will definitely succeed, but I think it is worth a shot at #2 and it would be a huge mistake not to take it. We also need a veteran who can start in front of him like what the Giants did with Dart. But if we have an opportunity to get a high level prospect like that without giving up any other capital, I would take it.
Mark me down as someone firmly in the "Draft Moore Camp". I've watched a ton of film on him and the talent is undeniable. He has flaws - namely he rarely has huddled or taken many snaps from under center. He needs a full year or at least a half of year to learn. I'm not naive. Mendoza is a better prospect and more polished QB right now. That does not what Moore is or could be. He was the #1 recruit in his class. He's turning 21 right before mini-camp. He is no way ready to lead an NFL team. But he is undeniably talented, both physically and by football acumen standards.
I just checked on Kiper's big board from 3 days ago. He has Bain at #19 and Moore ahead of Mendoza. LOL you really can't make this shit up. That's why you need to watch the games. There is absolutely no justification in the world to have Bain at 19 let alone the QB rankings. There's no better edge rusher in the class, not even close. Just watch him against the most talented team in the country, OSU, last week and against ND earlier this year. Dominant and explosive.
