Super Bowl LV - Kansas City Chiefs vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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  1. SOXXX2

    SOXXX2 Well-Known Member

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    There is no way Tom Brady wins another title with the Bucs right ?
     
  2. truthbtold

    truthbtold Well-Known Member

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    Brady may as well play another 29 years so he can win a Super Bowl with every franchise ... except for the Dolphins, of course.
     
  3. Br4d

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    For screens to work the receiver needs to get out into the flats w/o the QB being under immediate unintended pressure. Mahomes was under pressure from the get-go the whole game. It's one thing to setup a screen by trapping a DE inside. It's a whole different story when the DE/OLB is in the QB's face immediately. You can't "trap" a guy when you can't keep him out of the backfield in the first place. That's the problem the Chiefs had the entire game. The idea is to get a guy pushing upfield really hard, maybe with a chip block from the intended receiver before he releases into the flats. However when you can't stop that guy from bee-lining for the QB anyway there's no time to setup the screen. Instead in that situation you roll the QB and hope he can beat everybody to the outside, which is what the Chiefs did with Mahomes throughout the game.
     
  4. Jonathan_Vilma

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    You're missing the point. The pressure wasn't coming from the interior. The pressure was coming from the edge. Immediate pressure on a screen pass usually comes from the interior on a screen to which was fine for Kansas City all night. They got wrecked by JPP and Barrett not Suh and V.

    The idea of a screen is to influence the end up the field and throw it behind him. If you have an overaggressive defense you can leave the play side tackle on an island and set that tackle on a deep pass set and let the guard and center go dig out the safety and linebacker. Even if unsuccessful, it'll slow down the defensive end a half a second because he'll have seen the same action a couple times and react to it.

    Andy Reid made a living doing this with has massive tackle Tra' Thomas in Philadelphia and throwing it right behind him to Westbrook when he was with the Eagles. He didn't try it ONCE tonight.

    Throwing screens should be in every coaches playbook to slow down a relentless edge rush. Andy Reid provided this tool to the rest of the NFL in the 2000's and abandoned this principle tonight.
     
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  5. HomeoftheJets

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    That would be doubly awesome because it would ruin Belichick's legacy.
     
  6. patleahy

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    yeah but dont you hate Belichick too Brook! so that would be a third reason to have pulled for the Bucs tonight, no?
     
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  7. Quinnenthebeast

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    Did anyone not give a shit about this Super Bowl? I mean it’s been another year with Brady playing and the media just slobbering all of him. They absolutely can’t get enough of this guy. Bucs played a tremendous defense with a coach who failed to make it here (like all the other coaches that come here). Maybe I losing interest in the sport but these games aren’t as fun as they used to be.
     
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    lol I just saw this post, HomeoftheJets...and I readily approve!!! lol :D:D:D
     
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  9. roboz08

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    Join FanDuel because life is more fun when you have skin in the game ;)
     
  10. SOXXX2

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    I was excited for the matchup. I picked Tampa, but I didnt expect it to play out the way it did. The Chiefs offense just sucked.
     
  11. Losmeister

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    why is nobody saying mahomes played poorly?

    teflon
     
  12. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    Ugh. Just woken up to verify exactly how much I lost gambling on this Super Bowl.

    Fuck Tom Brady.
     
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  13. Losmeister

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    oh.


    leveon bell "utilization"
     
  14. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Rich and sad is better than poor and sad though
     
  15. matt robinson 17

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    TB12 GOAT
     
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  16. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    You'll get a 6 month holiday for that kind of talk my friend, best be careful
     
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    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Reality, you’re watching the greatest player ever, eat it Bellicheck!!
     
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  18. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    That may be true but it doesn't need saying over and over again on a Jets fan forum lol not one where a ruthless mod has done his dough on KC and really, really hates Tom Brady.
    :p

    ps I will just leave this here for you to glance at!!!

    https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/f-ck-tom-brady.95196/page-3
     
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  19. Quinnenthebeast

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    To us it’s like watching the bad guy win again and again but hearing everyone yell “Wow this villain is the greatest at winning! Please enjoy how much how great a moment this is!” I couldn’t care less.
     
  20. Borat

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    Would this version be more appropriate?

    Fuck Tom Brady! But Fuck New England even more!!!
     

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