There were no Wyoming receivers that went to the NFL. He lost his RB and C. The dialed down his # of passing attempts because he was incredibly inconsistent. I think his receivers were sure-handed (evident by drop rate), but they aren't going to WOW you with great catches. A more accurate QB in the short passing game would've made them better IMO.
Really is a whole lot of backwards logic at work here. He could open up those tight windows? Passing in tight windows is only possible because of velocity? Lol what kind of point after you trying to make? It's amazing how long the list of nonsense you pin on Allen to make a case for someone else and ignore Mayfield's list of question marks.
They dialed down pass attempts as the receivers couldn't get separation, and the line couldn't pass protect. That's a bad combination for an offense that prefers to throw downfield. They lost all their starting WR's (2 now in NFL), an excellent RB (in NFL), and quite a few lineman. Those WR's and RB accounted for 80% of their offensive production, which they had no viable replacements for. Kinda obvious why they had to dial it back.
And how would he know this? I've never seen tape that shows every wr throughout they're entire route. Also love the idea that Allen's wr's had sure hands. Every analyst talks about the lack of talent Allen worked with, not here, they're now sure handed, lol. Point is try and convince me that Mayfield should be the pick because of what he's good at. Disprove the many questions that are red flags for his game in the NFL. Don't tell me he's good because Allen's impressive arm is not an asset or that the impressive throws into tight coverage, which is needed more in the NFL, is really a negative because it's a product of poor anticipation. That's ridiculous. All the cliche driven negative talk is boring.
I am sorry, but the bad receivers / bad line is no excuse especially when the other QBs like Jackson didn't have much to work with but looked like actual QBs throwing the football. Jackson had no help either. Me thinks, Josh Allen lacks a short passing game. So instead, they ran a more vertical passing game. I look at the games, not many slants, curl routes and such. Play to HIS strengths, but not the receivers. Not good in terms of actual growth. His receivers didn't drop many passes.
His WR's couldn't get separation, which is much worse than dropping passes (they did some of that as well). No team lost virtually all of their offensive playmakers without any viable replacements. It's a fairly unique scenario, that only smaller schools without much of a program go through. That is why Bohl reduced the number of pass attempts, and even shortened the YPA. Had no choice.
I have seen quite the opposite. allen throws a great curl, out, and slant route for sure as well as a pretty deep ball. Mayfield struggle on intermediate throws and his best throws are short quick one's or when he improvises. here is a quick breakdown on a couple of highlight reels http://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/allen-vs-mayfield-at-the-3-pick-what-the-film-shows.90242/ full game breakdowns of both Qbs "not so good" games Allen: http://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/josh-allen-vs-iowa-every-play-broken-down.90249/ Mayfield: http://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/baker-mayfield-vs-texas-every-throw-broken-down.90290/
Tanner Gentry - 3 Receptions, 35 Yards Jacob Hollister - 4 Receptions, 42 Yards Shit, put me in coach.
I just pointed at Lamar Jackson who had no play-makers outside of 1 receiver in Jaylen Smith (he might be decent; 2nd to 3rd round value). Imagine going up against Bradley Chubb with no help? Playing Clemson? He had a true freshman at C; and I don't even remember the other guys, but they weren't that good. I don't see the coach, dialing down his plays? Is it that the receivers couldn't get seperation or Josh Allen just lacks the anticipation? Does the system just lack a short passing game altogether? The idea of throwing the receiver open and the receiver knowing where to go? Who is at fault? Its more then just, the WRs couldn't get seperation. I have to use Lamar has the barometer, because both had really bad supporting casts.
You dismissed them as NFL caliber players, and then proceed to show me their rookie NFL stats as UDFA's. Thank you for proving my point. They clearly are NFL caliber players. RB also was drafted, and I believe the C.
I'm not sure why you are involving Jackson in this particular topic. Did he lose over 80% of his offensive production in one season without any quality replacements? In terms of Allen, same QB and same HC, but they had to change their offensive approach. It's pretty obvious why, when you look at the rest of the offensive personnel changing over. I'm sure Bohl and Allen wanted to sling it more, like they did the year prior, but that approach wasn't going to work with this roster.
Thank you. Realize these guys were undrafted and had to earn there way on the field. Our own rookie Stewart only had 6 catches. Make no mistake Allen had good talent around him as a sophomore, he still didn’t perform as well as you’d like to see. This is one of the reasons I sort of doubt he will succeed in the NFL. This article is sobering if you are living in Josh Allen fantasy land: https://www.google.com/amp/s/fansid...rumors-scouting-report-nfl-draft-history/amp/
You call 35 and 42 yards NFL caliber? They were roster spots that needed filling and will be out of the league by 2020.
This whole article is AGAIN fixated on one measly stat. They don't even bring up the word ball placement.Yes it sure was sobering. Sobering how ignorant fans & media have become concerning completion %.
lol, yes I'd say UDFA's that earn a spot on an NFL roster, and actually play in NFL games, certainly qualifies as NFL caliber. how is that not NFL caliber? they're in the league. *Edit, I'm not saying they are great players by any stretch, but pro level athletes who are now in the NFL. There was a huge drop off in Wyoming once they left.
