Anyone still defending Zach over Sam?

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  1. PennyRoyal10

    PennyRoyal10 Well-Known Member

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    For sure, the most recent time we had a QB that potential hires would see as a reason for taking the job, they hired Gase..
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Betting my fanhood on it.
     
  3. JetsKickAss

    JetsKickAss Well-Known Member

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    Who ? Not NC Jets Fan ?
     
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    JetsKickAss Well-Known Member

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    What if we had taken Ja'mar Chase at #2 ? How good would Sam have looked THEN ?

    And if he still was horrible...we'd KNOW it was the QB and have to move on.
     
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  5. JetsKickAss

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    But I don't think Douglas was in love with Zach. If you listened to him up to the draft, he was not that effusive when discussing Wilson.

    The biggest reason I inferred from them taking Zach -- and I thought BOTH Saleh and Douglas were on the fence -- was that he would reset the salary cap and give them 3 do-over years on a rookie deal with Wilson.
     
  6. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    That hire is still unbelievable to this day, as was letting Mac do the draft and then sacking him.
     
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    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    IF and I'd love to make that a bigger if but I can't.
     
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    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Here's the OP from a thread from 2021 for anyone interested in the conversation right after the Jets let Darnold get away.

    Here's another that included a poll (Wilson was NOT the favorite) which filled up in just over two months beginning the very end of 2020: Darnold, Fields, Wilson, Jones, Trask, Lance | TheGangGreen.com - New York Jets Message Board

    Part 2: https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/fields-wilson-jones-trask-lance-volume-2.95329/

    Part 3: Fields, Wilson, Jones, Trask, Lance (Volume 3) | TheGangGreen.com - New York Jets Message Board
     
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  9. CaptainCap

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    If Sam makes the Super Bowl he will make history. There has never been a USC QB that has started the Super Bowl on either the winning or losing team. Carson Palmer came the closest. Making it to the NFL final losing to Cam Newton and Carolina.
     
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    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    I feel the whole Darnold/Wilson episode points out that the guys in charge of these decisions, the so called experts, the people who supposedly know more than we do, don’t know more than us. Therefore, our opinions on the media such as TGG are just as valid as theirs are.


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  11. ouchy

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    Who'd have thought when we traded Sam that he could be the first QB from his draft class to win a SB? Not Allen, Lamar, or Baker...Sam. He's 28-6 over the last two years, with two teams, and a rating of 100.9. He's won more games each of the last two seasons than he did in 3 seasons with us (13-25).
     
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  13. Zach

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    That ship sailed by a few miles by now. Wilson had every gift except what matters the most (the one between his ears). Let it rest, dude.
     
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    I hated that we were moving on from, Darnold. It happened though. Oh, well. On to the next disappointment.
     
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  15. James Hasty

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    That reset gave them the budget for the Aaron Rodgers fiasco.

    What a bunch of geniuses.
     
  16. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    I took so much crap from JD apologists over a few year.

    I don't think I can move on until this team wins eight games in a single season.

    This benchmark used to represent a break even 0.500 win percentage.

    It is an even lower bar now yet I need this team to clear it.

    Until then my blood will continue to boil on this one.

    Is that too much to ask?
     
  17. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    So I was thinking....Sam stunk it up here for 3 seasons, then goes on to TWO 14 win seasons, and is now in the NFCCG.

    So can we duplicate this? Can we find a young QB who stunk it up for 3 seasons on another team, then bring him here?

    Ah, NM. We just tried this with Justin Fields!
     
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  18. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    The trick is to find a great QB guru like Shannahan.

    Another trick would be to bring in an old timer like Flacco as a starter to mentor a young guy for a year or two while the younger guy rides the bench.

    Our offensive coordinators seem to have been clueless.
     
  19. Jets79

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    I’ll go you one better…I really believe that in these big decisions, the ones where we get a lot of back and forth discussion on this board, I think that if the Jets had done what this board’s consensus was, we’d have been a much better team.

    I count GM hires, HC hires, and key draft picks in that category. Had the team just read this board, I don’t think we ever hire trash like Gase, I really believe that.
     
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  20. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    Make no mistake about it, Jets fans the world over better be prepared. Darnold IS going to win the Super Bowl. There's nothing in the AFC that can handle the Seahawks OR the Rams for that matter. The ONLY thing I have to look forward to is watching those bitches, up in New England, getting absolutely demolished by either one. I just think the Seahawks are on a roll no one is equipped to stop right now.
     

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