If that is the case, there will never be a time to introduce a new Qb into a system as it will take an unprecedented amount of stability both in player personnel and coaching. The Jets have NEVER implemented a true modern NFL offense so there's no telling just how long that will take. What you're suggesting is simply to keep signing JAG Vets on their way out of the league to run the Jet offense and be a Million Dollar Mentor. No rookie would ever get to play during his entire rookie contract.
I don't get it. An owner would have to be an idiot to reward a coach for playing a 38 year old journeyman on a losing team. Oh wait...
As good as Josh plays I for one would love to see Petty get a real shot ... maybe that might happen after the bye
Yes and no. There are clearly tiers of quarterbacks in most drafts with some rising to the top while others falling. At the NFL level though a lot goes into making a successful QB and a lot of that has to do with surrounding cast, o-line strength, lessening the burden, etc. Rosen and Darnold are up there in a class of their own but things will change over the course of the season.
I'm actually pleasantly surprised by the amount of positivity surrounding the Jets winning. Both NY radio stations, a decent portion of Twitter, even, *gasp* this place. Getting mad over wins is stupid, as is rooting to lose. Truth is we were never going to be as bad as the media wanted us to be. The easiest thing to do is poke and prod the Jets fanbase for a reaction and use the team as a punchline for a joke. So they did, because to the casual fan that doesn't pay too much attention, we were the worst team in football by far. But there was always too much young, hungry talent for 0-16 to be possible. Now 1-15 won't be, and odds are 2-14 won't be either. And guess what? That's great. Whine in week 4 about potentially not getting a guy that is labeled a franchise QB as he continues to play up and down ball at USC. I prefer to look at the development of the guys that we KNOW will be here next year and beyond. I prefer to build a base that's going to attract young FAs with the $80 million we have to spend. Who is going to agree to spend the prime of their career with a team that can't win a game? No one worth having. Hoping for another win next week.
What are you supposed to do when the other team GIVES you the win?? -The Jets did their part to give the game away.... up 20-10 with the ball in the opponent's red zone with only 10 minutes left. Shoulda been an easy win but they turned it over twice and let them tie it. Then Edwards botches the punt to give JAX the ball on our side of the field in overtime. Game over. -But then JAX decided they would like to give the game away instead. In overtime, 4th and 3 at the Jets 43 yard line and you punt?????? You actually make your chances of winning the game worse with that bonehead decision. And look how it played out for them. What a dumbass Doug Marrone is
Obviously, those of you who are rooting for the Jets to lose aren't rooting hard enough. The last two wins are YOUR fault. You can't even correctly root for your team to tank! Terrible job on your part. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
It s beyond silly to be rooting for your team to lose every game ESPECIALLY before start of the season or in the first few games... One game at a time fellas, focus on the Browns and win.
That's your opinion, but others of us disagree. When we're fed up with how the team is being run, when we're sick and tired of all the JAG QBs, and all the losing as a result, and we want dramatic change, it makes perfectly good sense. IMO what is silly is fans wanting to see the Jets win 5-6 games or more in a rebuilding season when the Jets need to get as high a draft position as possible so that they can get their pick of the players that the team will be counting on in the rebuild rather than having to take 2nd or 3rd choice, or worse in each round. What is silly is fans putting short-term immediate satisfaction, over long-term success. Some fans can't see the forest for the trees.
Plus a thousand Damned if you do and damned if you don't support the team I think the players and Bowles definitely have a chip on their shoulder to prove the media/ fans wrong how bad they were predicted to be As far as I can see there is definite improvement in team and even Coaching performance with both TB and Morton being a little less conservative But why are you not playing A Stewart and the other rookies a little more? That's too risky I guess After the Browns game the schedule ramps up with the Jets facing a murderers row of NE Atlanta Buff TB Carolina and KC December will also be devastating with Denver NO Chargers and NE I eliminated the gimme games of Browns and Miami but they could be traps as well How far can the team go ? We shall see I guess but manufacturing somehow 5 or more wins doesn't really excite me considering no OL and no future QB in the wings JMHO
IMO getting the first pick overall means almost nothing. Since 1990, 15 QBs have been selected #1 overall. Two of them (the Brothers Manning) have raised the VLT . If you take out the past 2 drafts, that's 2 for 13 or about 15%. It's not all about where you pick. It's about scouting, identifying the correct player, implementing a system that plays to that players strength, nurturing that player, surrounding him with enough talent to succeed and then getting lucky that said player performs. Now, you want to tell me that the Jets organization doesn't have the foresight or personnel to do this, I would have to agree. But picking number 1 overall means very little in the equation.
This is going to be a QB rich draft, and its pretty clear the Jets know they need one. McCown will be 39 years next year and Petty and Hackenberg are not good (otherwise they'd be starting right now). Its really about hitting on your draft picks. Patriots, Steelers, Packers, Seahawks, etc... didn't pick a QB at #1. Rooting against your team in week 3 doesn't make sense, considering there are so many games remaining. Check out the Browns right now. Fans were leaving in the 3rd quarter because they were so embarrassed. They went 1-15 last year (and 3-13 the year prior) and look EVEN worse this year. Going 1-15 doesn't guarantee anything in the future.
This thread is also very premature. Zero foresight applies if they were 2-11 and rattled off 3 wins in a row against the Chargers, Saints and Patriots team resting their starters. You can definitely make the claim then and I think everyone would agree. The Jets are not as "historically bad" as they were made out to be, so zero foresight does not apply at the moment. The players are out there trying as hard as they can to win, something that everyone should want to see.
You're right, but when your team doesn't possess those attributes that I bolded, your best hope is to be able to get a guy who can transcend those shortcomings. That's why picking #1 is so important. That said, I wouldn't argue to tank for it, and I don't believe the Jets are going to "earn" that pick this year. My Plan-B calls for hoping Barkley is there for us and then grabbing one of the Tier 2 QBs.
I agree wholeheartedly with the bolded part, unless the Jets have identified a QB that they want to roll the dice on early in the first round. I'm going to assume the Jets finish with somewhere between 4-6 wins. That would have them drafting in the top 10. If they love a QB in that range, by all means, pull the trigger. My only problem is that Mac also loved Hackenberg and that doesn't seem to be going very well at this point.
You're the first person I've seen to criticize Marrone for punting. Whereas anytime a coach goes for it on fourth down and doesn't get it the lynch mob comes out. That's why they punt.
Marrone's "D" had given up almost 500 yards of offense already. Did he REALLY think his team would stop the Jets? If the "smart" people think this was a good plan, I'm happy to be dumb.
