Zach Wilson - MERGED (All Zach Threads will be merged here)

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  1. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    With Zach as a starter in place of JimmyG, we already know the playoffs aren't a possibility so we'd most likely be playing out the string again. Really wouldn't matter if Zach sucked again or not. Perhaps for a better draft pick at most.
     
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    I never saw coddling, if anything they did the opposite. After Knapp died, they did little to support him.
    They certainly didn't protect him from any internal, or external noise, which obviously got inside his head (see clip below).
    But if by coddling, you mean they kept playing him, and now, he'll have to earn his way back onto the field, let alone become a FQB, I'd agree no more coddling.
    As an aside, I thought this short Terry Bradshaw clip was interesting...

    https://www.newsday.com/sports/football/super-bowl/terry-bradshaw-zach-wilson-video-ems9ivr9
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    I thought Calabrese was let go? I hope so.

    I don't know what the rules are regarding teams being allowed to work with players during the off season - I think they're prohibited or very limited. In any case, if Zach wants to have the best chance of success, he'd better invest some of his millions in some good coaches and work on fixing his flaws.
     
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    Boggles the mind, but Calabrese is still the QB coach.
    https://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coaches-roster/rob-calabrese

    I think the thing about working with players, is about rookies after the draft, but I'm probably wrong.
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    For how long?
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    This article is still slanted against the idea that Zach can succeed. It's enlightening to hear that contrary to what Douglas claimed - that "picking Zach at #2 was a unanimous choice by everyone", and also that MLF was one of the ones banging the table FOR picking him.

    In any case, most of the "negatives" aren't about his ability, and are either regarding his struggles with mechanics and consistency and immaturity - not surprising for a 23 year old. But none of these negatives have caused him to be thought of as irredeemable by anyone who has actually played the game and studied Zach's performances. That said, I'm not claiming to know any better than anyone else, nor am I saying he can't be a bust, but having seen the likes of Jamarcus, and Hackenberg, and even Darnold, I still think Zach has more ability and potential than any of those, and with the right coaching and a system designed around his strengths can still succeed. I point to Lawrence's turn around when these things were changed for him as support for this belief.

    But it would only be prudent to get a proven winning QB in to play this year at least and let Zach have his "learning year" at least belatedly. Worst case is that Zach shows up at TC and continues to struggle, and then doesn't make progress when given the opportunity and they can at least know he's definitely not the answer and can move on...or Douglas and Saleh can simply read all the posts here asserting without reservation that he already IS a bust and save time and effort. /s
     
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    TOO long
     
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    CC,,, interesting Sean Payton had an interesting comment about your underline... He essentially said, what we all seem to agree on except maybe one or two posters, that any coach worth his salt wlll evaluate his talent strengths and weakness and tailor the scheme to maximize player potential. Lets hope Hackett can do that... then we will see for sure if ZW has what it takes.
     
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    I hope Zach watches that clip.
     
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    100% agree with that approach and have been saying it for years, not just about Zach.

    And Hackett has a track record of doing just that, which is why I think the Jets hired him.
     
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    We're going to need 5 Tight Ends playing Oline that can keep up with him when he immediately bails the pocket after every drop back.
     
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    Also, we're going to need a slot receiver that is 7 feet tall and runs a 3.5 second cone drill.
     
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    That's how I used to beat my brother in electric football!

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    Well since LeBron's now the alltime scoring champ, maybe he needs a new challenge
     
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    That sounds good. Also, Quinnen Williams is our new fullback.
     
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    LaFleur, Calabrese, Cavanaugh and Beck say the bolded is fiction.
     
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    It takes a special kind of blinders to claim a comprehensive article is somehow "slanted" when it reports, in depth, what was happening throughout the year both on the field and inside the organization. Someone's mirror is crooked.
     
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