Zach Thomas Fined!

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  1. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    I'm saying both of them were against the rules and neither one of them were dirty or had an impact on the game other than the flag was thrown on one and not on the other.
     
  2. gustoonarmy

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    Face up! head down! Lower your pads! Drive through with your legs!
    Happy days.:breakdance:
     
  3. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    No Coles was being brought down. Thomas was the second man in, left his feet, head down and caught Coles under the chin. In real time it looked like a deliberate spear.

    I also re-watched twice after the real time passion was out of the picture, he was def. looking to give Coles a little extra.


    Going one step further, it seems like more than coincidence that this is the second time he happened to take out the Jets best offensive player. (Martin, Knee...)
     
  4. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    To me in real time it looked like he was trying to seperate the WR from the football a good solid play. I felt the same way about the Leon hit.

    What can I tell you I'm old school and grew up with DL men head slapping and QB being planted.

    Again the problem is the refs make a call it changes the game they don't it doesn't and it's not reviewable.
     
  5. ollie

    ollie Right Wing NutJob

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    The Hobson sack was not against the rules... Brady had the ball in his hand at the beginning of the sack (no late hit) Hobson hit him with his shoulder (no helmet to helmet) and Brady jumped to throw the ball, Hobson didn't pick him up and drive him, which I think was the NFL explantion... the two play aren't even close IMO.
     
  6. pats-hater

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    Damn Straight... That hit was so blatant... I F'ing hate thomas, what a freakin loser... i wish his stupid trash-ass would retire..
     
  7. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    He lifted him off his feet and drove him to the ground. I thought it was clean but it is clearly against the rules and not just the official said it was the league backed it up just like in this case. It was lifting him and driving him not the timeing of the hit.
     
  8. ollie

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    You're wrong on this winston... Brady clearly jumped up as he was throwing the ball... Hobson didn't lift or drive him...
     
  9. winstonbiggs

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    You see now your showing you aren't objective he clearly drove him into the ground. Was it blatant or viscous, absolutely not but it was against the rules.
     
  10. ollie

    ollie Right Wing NutJob

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    OK.. I saw it differently... we won the game so really no big deal either way
     
  11. nyjunc

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    Actually he didn't lift him, Brady lifted himself and hobson finished off the tackle. There are certainly times our guys deserve fines for hits but that was not one of them.
     
  12. OJDidIt

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    Zach's roids have taken away his neck and given him a caveman brow. He should be in the geico commercials. Loser.
     
  13. vinsjets

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    being the face of their D, and being underated in the NFL are different things....when people talk about the MLB position, he rarely comes up.
     
  14. JetBlue

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    no, he clearly tackled him to the ground and you can't tackle a player without force. this may be semantical, but what actually occured is independent of how we describe it, and the act of attempting to sack Brady was clean and can only be rationalized as a penalty by using a more vicious sounding word such as "driving."

    every tackle is an attempt to drive the opponent to the ground. it is whether that driving is neccessary or not. in this case, Brady still had the ball in his hand when contact was made and the tackle was in act, and the act was one motion. whether Brady got rid of the ball in the act is irrelevent and can't be blamed on the defender, except by a poor official.
     
  15. SOWELLisGOD

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    everyone appeals...i hate appeals...at least carmelo didnt appeal his fight suspension
     
  16. 1969jets

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    It's funny how the fish always talk smack, yet we've beaten them 14 of the last 18 meetings! We must be one hell of a lucky team to do that since the fish are so superior to us according to the conceited, over rated fish players. I'm surprised they haven't put in an appeal on the 14 wins we've hung on them!
     
  17. winstonbiggs

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    Your right and the league has effectively outlawed tackling the QB in a controlled manner as Hobson did. By league standards, Hobson's take down was a personal foul.
     
  18. coral reefer

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    Thomas is known for a few cheap shots over the years
     
  19. gustoonarmy

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    Whilst the Leon hit was vicious it was legitimate and a good tackle.
    I consider myself old school too and love the physicality of the game . My one wish though would be to eradicate all synthetic grass , eerryuk!
     

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