Zac Stacy

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  1. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    True, nothing supports Robinson being better than Stacy other than needing less carries to put up similar production in stupidly small sample sizes. Not quite sure why you're saying I'm arguing with myself. Is that just a tactic you're using to give off the impression there's no argument because you're so incredibly right?

    This was very simple. The trade was fine. Stacy is a good guy to take a chance on. He also may not even make the team.
     
  2. Jets-AK49

    Jets-AK49 New Member

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    'Just another camp arm', or in this case, 'legs'.
     
  3. TurkJetFan

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    Robinson is a pass catcher more than Stacy so total touches is the way to go not csrries... Robinson flashed for 4 weeks then vanished.

    As for the rest I'm done watching you argue with you.
     
  4. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    i guess we have to agree to disagree. to me its a complete non factor. i dont need speed at running back. give me someone who stays healthy and hold on to the ball and its all pretty much the same. the league is about passing. you can supliment the run with short passing and bubble screens anyhow.

    we were 3rd in the nfl in rushing last season. i guess chris johnson is a speed back but he did like nothing. give me a line that can open up holes thats where you want to invest.

    i really dont care who carries the ball as long as they dont fumble
     
  5. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    You keep responding countering with points to my points... which are counterpoints to YOUR points. That's the dictionary definition of an argument my friend.

    Whatever you have to tell yourself to make yourself feel better I guess.
     
  6. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    i wouldnt trade more then a 6th rounder for any of those guys.
     
  7. TurkJetFan

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    Thumbs up pal
     
  8. TurkJetFan

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    Can't tell if serious....
     
  9. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    its an irrelevant position that you dont invest big in unless you want to waste assets or cap space.

    just look at how often they are replaced or thrown to the side. its not some crazy notion... look at some recent happenings from jsut this year:

    Philly trades mccoy, arguably the leagues best back away and then doesnt draft a replacement

    the cowboys let demarco murry go, despite leading the league in rushing, and didnt draft a replacement

    you dont see any backs holding out, cause no team will cave and pay them

    some guys are obviously better then others... but running just isnt a valued part of football anymore. any guy that can carry it and not fumble is going to suffice. a plus if they can pass block and catch out of the back field.

    its akin to how baseball went away from starters going deep and ushered in the era of relieve pitching

    pitchers dont throw complete games anymore, now you have a middle reliver, a couple specialty guys who own lefties and righties, a setup man and a closer

    same with running backs now. you have a guy you can rely on not to fumble, you have a pass protection back, and then you have a third down back. none of them need to be all that great. you easily get by all the same
     
  10. NYJFan10

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    lol isn't that what the Jets have done? Ridley was a low-cost FA, Stacy cost a 7th round pick, Powell was a 4th round pick and Ivory cost a 4th rounder in trade. And all of these guys have at least done something in the NFL. How much less do you want to spend on RB? None of these guys are making any money, hell three of them are FA's after this year.
     
  11. TurkJetFan

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    Look at virtually every playoff and almost all Superbowl teams annually and tell me again rb is irrelevant..
     
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    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

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    Of course Philly didn't draft a replacement, THEY SIGNED MURRAY lol (not to mention Ryan Mathews as well)

    The Cowboys didn't get a replacement cause Jerry's still keeping the porch light on for AP. And btw if they don't get AP then let's see how they do with Glass McFadden and their other stooges at RB.
     
  13. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    exactly and im thrilled thats the route we went. we were what, 3rd or 4th in rushing last year despite no pass offense to take pressure off and a cast of nobodies i the backfield. i dont see the need to inviest in a runningback when you can virtually the same with a committee of specialty tpyes
     
  14. jerseyjay14

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    the pats just won the superbowl. tell me again who there runningbacks are?
     
  15. TurkJetFan

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    I'm not saying a huge financial investment is required at rb however to say the position is irrelevant isn't true
     
  16. TurkJetFan

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    Financial investment and production don't need to be parallel. They ran the ball effectively all year and it was a staple of their offense...without it they win nothing

    Exactly why the colts can't make the next step and why brees has 1 ring and not more

    I'm simply saying rb is not irrelevant...I'm not saying dumping mega bucks into it is a necessity
     
  17. jerseyjay14

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    The cowboys, with a better offenive line and a passing game to keep defenses honest
    147 ypg

    the jets, with no pass game to speak of
    143 ypg

    cowboys had murray. jets had a 3 headed mosnter of nobodies

    tell me a gain how much a runningback matters
     
  18. NYJFan10

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    Yeah, in the Jets' case I think they had the right balance of not spending a lot but still getting enough quality
     
  19. jerseyjay14

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    STOPPING the run is why the colts cant take the next step. the patriots ran all over them in the playoffs 2 years in a row.

    BTW the pats did it with nobodies and castaways at runningback

    saints havent won more again because of defense and also stability after bountygate
     
  20. TurkJetFan

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    Right...you can get a productive running game w minimal investment ... That doesn't mean the production isn't critical

    Agree to disagree on new orleans
     

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