Cotchery left because he didn't want to be a number 3 receiver I thought. I thought he was traded before Plax was signed.
Guarantees that can't be proven. Does our RZ offense get worse in that scenario canceling out any improvement you think it brings? Remember, a big reason of the RZ success was Plax. Also what do we really know how Braylon performs? SF is a completely different situation than NY, but he only started 5 games and caught <20 passes I believe. We have no idea if Braylon performs at his high level without Holmes on the opposite side. I was saying if they went after Holmes and Braylon immediately they could have signed both. Braylon wanted big money, except the Jets gave that to Holmes and wanted to give it to Nnamdi. Reports said Braylon didn't appreciate the fact of being an afterthought. Anyways, that doesn't take away the fact that if they went after both of them they could have gotten both. I was saying it wasn't a "one or the other", it was if they wanted both they had both.
Nope. Plax was signed on 7/31 and Cotchery was released on 8/4. The Jets signed Plax, then brought in Mason for a workout, then Cotch asked to be released. I would asked to be released if I was Cotch too. Tanny is a moron.
I believe Cotchery started asking to be traded or released after Plaxico was signed. Mason was signed as the replacement for Cotchery. There was no plan for them to play together.
LOL, yes I know why cotch asked for his release. Acting like you the only on who remembers and ignoring all other facts just makes you look silly. He was not happy being slated at best 4th here and signed with Pittsburgh act his release. J-co felt a lack of respect. He was always a tough player, but an average talent. His head got too big for his role. He went on to put up a stellar 237 Yards last year while battling a back injury. How does a guy who is injured and unproductive while on the feild win more games for us? That statement covers both of you man loves. Both were left to leave the Jets. One allowed to sign elsewhere in FA and the other given the release he had asked for. Both had horrible years where the battled Injury and put up career low stats. Saying the would have in any way been a help to us last year is surely revisionist history.
With the benefit of hindsight Mason was obviously a big mistake, but Cotchery asked to be traded before he was brought in. The Jets gave his agent permission to seek a trade after Burress was brought in (and he apparently asked to be traded as early as February 2011), but if Edwards had stayed it would have been the same thing - Cotchery didn't want to be the #3 receiver. He said all this very explicitly after he signed with the Steelers, but just like Edwards he obviously overestimated the market greatly. http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/6833667/new-york-jets-release-jerricho-cotchery http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/08...-disrespected-by-jets-still-no-derrick-mason/ http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/sto...chery-says-was-beneficial-leave-new-york-jets
Lol, well you sure didn't act like you knew. And thanks for telling me what I already told you a post previously lol. And if thy stayed with the jets it's a whole different story. They had already played together and with Sanchez, knew the play book etc. It would've been a whole different scenario, you can't really even compare
Your the one trying to compare. Your saying we would have won more with them on our roster. Your ignoring that they spent all year injured and put up less then 500 yards combined. Now you seem to belive that both would have been healthy if they had stayed in NY. Maybe it was something in the water in SF and Pitt? Or, just maybe, your pullling shit out of your ass to back up a pointless thread? That seems much more likely.
And to answer your last paragraph with FACTS: 2009 & 2010 we make it to the AFCCG with a mix of Cotch/Edwards/Clowney/Smith and Holmes (in 2010 only) In 2011 we have Holmes/Plax/Mason and Kerley and don't even make it into the Playoffs or have a winning record So there you have it, that's how we win more games with 2 'unproductive' WR's Now do you have any facts to support that our offense was better without Cotch/Edwards? Nope.
Again, your ignoring 2011. Both of these men were injured last year. Our Olines in 2009 & 2010 were among the tops in the NFL, where as 2011 it was far from it. Our Rushing game also dropped off due to injured/inneffictive Olinemen. 2011 was also the lowest ranked our Defense has been since Rex got here, but I guess none of those thigns matter? Its all cause of Edwards and cotchery? At this point I'm starting to wonder if your stupid enough to actually belive the tripe your typing or are trolling hard.
We should have kept Holmes and Edwards agreed. I dont understand why he was let go. i know he got into a bar fight during the off season after 2010 but still the guy fit really well with our offense and had good chemistry with Sanchez. But whats done is done. Lets go Stephen Hill!!!!
I love how you left out that in 2009 and 2010 we had one of the top run games in the league which opened up the passing game largely. Now add in the fact our rushing has died off dramaticly and Nick Mangold being hurt for what 5 weeks last season. Mark playing with a screwed shoulder last 5 games. This argument is a ridiculous. The guy makes a good catch against a 3rd string defense and the idoits come out of the wood work AGAIN.
dwi car cash then a club stabbing. This was not about him being an after thought or us not willing to pay him. The jets made their mind up before the offseason that Braylon wasnt coming back. Hence why in every interview they did not bad talk braylon and just simply stuck to the story we cant afford to bring everyone back. Cro was released after an injury not allot of wr's come back from fully and has yet to break the top 3 in pitt. Jets made the right decisions and when you guys finally come to grips with the fact the jets are finaly building for a future and not the WIN NOW the happy you guys will be. Personally its my belief and allot of other Hill will be a better wr then braylon will ever be.
Lol. I have facts, you do not. The defense was worse? Lol no shit, the offense put them in bad situations often. If its a different offense, the defense is in different situations every.single.game. But we'll pretend like the games would've played out exactly as they did, right? Are you ignorant? Arguing with you is about equivalent to a Physics teacher arguing with a History teacher about Physics. About 80% of the board agreed with my OP. You are in the minority and incorrect. Get over it.
What is ignorant is ignoring the fact that we had a turd for a right tackle instead of one of the best in the league in Damien Woody and our all-pro center missed a handful of games leaving the line in shambles and letting our quarterback get injured. No one is going to argue that Plaxico was a downgrade. You sound foolish when you act as if receiver was our only issue on offense last year.
They let him go 2 years ago. Everyone is saying tihs now but if he only had 250 yards receiving for the Jets last season everyone would be crying why did we resign Braylon.
