QB: Matt Moore RB: Stefan Taylor or Joseph Randle (2nd round DP, Stanford or Oklahoma State) FB/HBack: Kyle Juszczyk (7th round DP, Harvard) WR1: Santonio Holmes WR2: Stephen Hill vs. Conner Vernon (4th round DP, Duke) Slot WR: Jeremy Kerley TE: James Casey (FA signing, Texans) LT: D'Brickashaw Ferguson LG: Garrett Gilkey (6th round DP, Chadron State) C: Nick Mangold RG: Omoregie Uzzi (5th round DP, Georgia Tech) RT: Austin Howard DE: Muhammad Wilkerson NT: Kenrick Ellis DE: Quinton Coples OLB: Jarvis Jones (1st round DP, Georgia) ILB: David Harris ILB: Demario Davis OLB: Garrett McIntyre CB1: Darrelle Revis FS: Bacarri Rambo (3rd round DP, Georgia) SS: Josh Bush CB2: Antonio Cromartie Slot CB: Kyle Wilson
QB- Greg McElroy (why waste money on a retread lets see what we have in him) RB- Steven Jackson/Bilal Powell/Joe McKnight FB- Lex Hillard WR- Santonio Holmes/Braylon Edwards/Jeremy Kerley/Stephen Hill/Clyde Gates TE- Dustin Keller/Jeff Cumberland/Conrad Rueland LT- D'Brickeshaw Ferguson/Free agent signee/draft pick LG- Vladimir Duccass/free agent/draft pick C- Nick Mangold RG- Matt Slausen/free agent/draft pick RT- Austin Howard/draft pick
Trading Cro for a 2nd rounder Cutting Pace, Scott, Smith, Smith, Tebow Paycut on Pouha and Holmes Rolling Mangold 3mil bonus over 5 years Resigning Landry, Bell, B Thomas, Devito, Howard, Edwards, Folk FA Acquisitions of Matt Moore, Louis Vasquez, Ahmad Bradshaw, Delanie Walker Draft focused on the trenches. I need to see more on each of these draft picks, but these are my early thoughts. Roster QB: Matt Moore (FA) RB: Ahmad Bradshaw (FA), Bilal Powell, Mike Gilleslee (3rd round DP Florida) FB/HBack: Delanie Walker (FA), Josh Baker WR1: Santonio Holmes WR2: Braylon Edward (Re-sign), Stephen Hill Slot WR: Jeremy Kerley TE: Zach Ertz (2nd round DP Stanford), Michael Williams (6th round DP Alabama), Hayden Smith LT: D'Brickashaw Ferguson LG: Larry Warford (2nd round DP Kentucky) C: Nick Mangold RG: Louis Vasquez (FA) RT: Austin Howard (Re-sign), Brian Winters (4th round DP Kent State. plays G/T) DE: Muhammad Wilkerson NT: Sioune Pouha, Kenrick Ellis, Harrison DE: Quinton Coples, Mike Devito (re-sign) OLB: Jarvis Jones (1st round DP), Ricky Sapp ILB: David Harris ILB: Demario Davis, AJ Klein (5th round DP Iowa) OLB: Garrett McIntyre, Bryan Thomas (re-sign) CB1: Darrelle Revis, Berry FS: Laron Landry (re-sign) SS: Yeremiah Bell (re-sign), Josh Bush CB2: Kyle Wilson, Lankster
No you are in the majority only a few asshats believe in Sanchez. After this year Sanchez and his enabler will be history.
Revis - traded Holmes - cut/traded Greene - cut/traded Keller - traded Long shot FA targets Stephen Jackson Percy Harvin Assuming nothing major happens in FA QB: 3 way battle - McElroy, Sanchez, Mid round draft pick or Matt Moore type FA RB: Bilal Powell, Ahmad Bradshaw (FA), McKnight FB/HBack: Josh Baker, vet min FA WR1: Edwards (cut/trade holmes) WR2: Stephen Hill Slot WR: Jeremy Kerley TE: Anthony Fasano (FA), 2nd rd draft pick, Cumberland, Hayden Smith (cut/trade keller) LT: D'Brickashaw Ferguson LG: Vlad C: Nick Mangold RG: Moore RT: Austin Howard DE: Muhammad Wilkerson NT: Sioune Pouha, Kenrick Ellis DE: Quinton Coples, OLB: Jarvis Jones (1st round DP), Ricky Sapp ILB: David Harris ILB: Demario Davis, OLB: Garrett McIntyre, 2-3 round DP CB: Cromartie, Berry, Wilson FS: Laron Landry, SS: Yeremiah Bell (vet min), Josh Bush
Assuming no major FA splashes or miracle trades and restructurings, this would be a decent roster for a transition year. QB: M. Sanchez, G. McElroy, Sean Renfree (UDFA) RB: Fred Jackson (FA), B. Powell, J. McKnight FB: Lonnie Pryor (6th), J. Baker WRs: S.Holmes, B. Edwards, S. Hill, J. Kerley, TE: Fred Davis (FA), J. Cumberland, H. Smith LT: D. Ferguson LG: V. Ducasse, Earl Watford (7th) C: N. Mangold, Joe Madsen (UDFA) RG: C. Warmack (1st) RT: A. Howard, Reid Fragel (5th) DEs: M. Wilkerson, Q. Coples, M. DeVito NTs: S. Pouha, K. Ellis OLB: Khaseem Greene (3rd), G. McIntyre, Gerald Hodges (4th), R. Sapp ILBs: D. Harris, D. Davis, N. Bellore CB: D. Revis, A. Cromartie, A. Berry, K. Wilson FS: L. Landry, SS: Matt Elam (2nd), J. Bush
i like this one the best so far, with the exception of the WR's. We need to add atleast 1 midlevel free agent Josh Cribbs or somebody or we are gonna have the same problem we did last season
I'd be completely okay with this roster, even without adding a WR. You do make a good point in that if two receivers go down (or a WR and a TE), then our team would be in the same position as it was last year. I'm not sure that adding bodies will really help that. If the conditioning program is as bad as it was last year, then it won't matter how many bodies the Jets add to their roster -- they'll all end up injured!
QB:Arron Rodgers (traded for Revis and Sanchez) WR1:Calvin Johnson (traded for holmes) WR2: Brandon Marshall (Sign and trade for Braylon Edwards) RB1: Adrian Peterson (traded for Powell and Mcknight..Young Talent!) TE: Jimmy Graham (traded for Bart Scott and Calvin Pace, saints need help on D!) See guys, we'll be fine.
This is probably more realistic than mine, as i think i may have just exceeded cap. I'd probably need to scale back a FA or resigning (although i love Vasquez). Fred Jackson and Fred Davis would be interesting. I like cheap vets with the right attitude to start turning things around on O. injuries would have to be checked out first. Warmack and Elam are top prospects in positions of need, so i like them too. My only complaint would be the offense just doesn't look upgraded enough overall. No one to compete with or replace Sanchez would be repeating the mistakes of 2012. Ducasse slated to start would make me nervous, and no real threat out of the backfield or TE slot. I know we can't do it all in 1 year...but i'd like to see us get a complete TE and a versatile RB in the draft if possible (along with an OG, which you addressed with Warmack).
I'll agree that the offense isn't upgraded enough, but for a different reason -- no change at the QB position. I just don't see the front office doing anything this year to change the Sanchez situation because all his money comes off the books next year. That will give Idzik and Rex, or whomever is his successor, a fresh start at the position with a tremendous amount of cap room. Barring any renegotiation by Sanchez, I think that this is the most realistic move by the Jets and extends the Sanchez experiment by another year. I'll also disagree with threats out of the backfield and at the TE spot. Both Fred Davis and Fred Jackson are well-suited to the WCO in that they've got good hands, solid acceleration, and don't shy away from contact. In particular, Jackson is an excellent receiver in the flat and screen game, which, if the E-Gulls offense is an indicator, should be important in our offense. Fred Davis is a good, young replacement for Keller who has an extra gear and plays with a chip on his shoulder. I should also note that we both agree that building through the draft is the way to go as it will permit keeping some of our prized players while allowing the Jets to start the revolving door at other spots.
Fred Jackson is old as shit, Gio Bernard is a better pick. Trade Revis, we'll get him at the end of the first round. BTW - Warmack is a LG
Since many have said the last round of cuts got he Jets about $7 million under the cap and the cap is projected to be around $121 million, these numbers look to be accurate. So figuring the $6 million the Jets need to sign rookies, that leaves about $1 million to sign anyone not on this list. Anyone want to look at their roster again? PLAYER POS. CAP FIGURE 1 David Harris LB 13,000,000 2 Mark Sanchez QB 12,853,125 3 Santonio Holmes WR 12,500,000 4 Antonio Cromartie CB 10,750,000 5 D'Brickashaw Ferguson T 10,716,667 6 Nick Mangold C 9,117,100 7 Darrelle Revis CB 9,000,000 8 Sione Pouha DT 6,166,667 9 Tim Tebow QB 2,586,875 10 Kyle Wilson CB 2,010,400 11 Quinton Coples DE 2,000,635 12 Muhammad Wilkerson DE 1,875,000 13 Stephen Hill WR 1,070,986 14 Vladimir Ducasse G 886,250 15 Joe McKnight RB 755,250 16 Kenrick Ellis DT 707,500 17 Demario Davis LB 664,490 18 Bilal Powell RB 655,125 19 Aaron Berry CB 650,000 20 Ellis Lankster CB 630,000 21 Jeremy Kerley WR 601,062 22 Greg McElroy QB 571,288 23 Garrett McIntyre LB 560,000 24 Nick Bellore LB 557,333 25 Clyde Gates WR 555,000 26 Caleb Schlauderaff C 555,000 27 Robert Malone P 555,000 28 Darrin Walls CB 555,000 29 Josh Bush S 506,055 30 Damon Harrison DT 482,333 31 Ricky Sapp DE 480,000 32 Emmanuel Arceneaux WR 480,000 33 Jaiquawn Jarrett S 480,000 34 Bret Lockett CB 480,000 35 Dennis Landolt T 480,000 36 Antonio Allen S 480,000 37 Danny Lansanah LB 480,000 38 Donnie Fletcher CB 480,000 39 Hayden Smith TE 480,000 40 Konrad Reuland TE 480,000 41 Royce Adams WR 407,790 42 Travis Tripucka LS 405,000 43 John Griffin RB 405,000 44 JoJo Dickson LB 405,000 45 Cliff Harris CB 405,000 46 Tevita Finau DE 405,000 47 Vidal Hazelton WR 405,000 48 D.J. Young T 405,000 49 Joe Collins WR 405,000 50 Royce Pollard WR 405,000 51 Titus Ryan WR 405,000 52 Matt Simms QB 405,000 53 Jacquies Smith DE 405,000 54 Claude Davis DT 405,000 DEAD Calvin Pace LB 3,013,335 Bart Scott LB 1,500,000 Robert T. Griffin G 59,010 Terrance Ganaway RB 59,010 John Conner RB 49,750 Jordan White WR 34,422 Antonio Allen S 34,422 Hayden Smith TE 6,667 G.J. Kinne QB 4,667 Brian Linthicum TE 4,667 Marcus Dowtin LB 4,667 Donnie Fletcher CB 4,667 Donovan Robinson LB 4,667 Brett Roy LB 4,667 D'Anton Lynn CB 4,667 Ryan Steed CB 4,667 T.J. Conley P 333 2013 TOTALS CAP FIGURE Active Contracts 114,566,931 Top 51 Contracts 113,351,931 Dead Money 4,794,285 2012 Available Cap Rollover 3,400,000 114,746,216
Cut Tebow and Pouha Don't re-sign(as if the Jets want to re-sign or can afford them)Moore,Greene,Keller,DeVito,Slausson,Landry,Bell,etc. The Jets should get the 4 compensatory picks in 2014. Trade Revis The Jets are stuck with the other bums. Hope another team extends a decent offer sheet to Howard. Get 2nd rounder. Hope the cap is set at $122M. More room for 2 or 3 $500,000 players. If its possible to trade Cromartie and Revis in the same off-season,do it. Realistic roster QB-Sanchez RB-Powell/McKnight LT-Ferguson LG-Ducasse C-Mangold RG-? RT-? WR-Holmes,Kerley,Hill TE-Cumberland,? DE-Wilkerson,Coples NT-Ellis OLB-?,McIntyre(by default) ILB-Harris,Davis CB-Cromartie?,Wilson S-?,? 4-12 here we come. Draft best players available. Trade down accumulate picks. Trade Revis. College free agents should flock to the Jets. Young and cheap.
If I see: "FS: LaRon Landry" another time I'm going to scream. He's not a FS. He's a SS. I realize he played FS for the Jets last season but he was playing out of position and thus was rated one of the worst safeties in pass coverage in 2012. He's a SS. If he's somehow magically retained, it will be as a SS. They can't possibly re-sign both him and Bell again and for the fourth straight year ignore the FS position, can they? Can they!? :breakdance:
The Jets don't have much cap space. I know its all for fun. If you look at some of these roster projections,where is the money coming from? Can the NFL record the conversation between Izdik and Holmes agent when Idzik informs him about taking a pay cut? Have a camera on Santonio. Must see TV. Motherfuckers want to cut my pay. They shouldn't restructure contracts which come back to bite them in future years. Maybe the Jets should cut Holmes. They save $1M. Get rid of a bad guy.
Unless Holmes' injury affects him deeply, who will we get for $1 mil that can produce as much or more than Holmes? I understand the salary cap and all, but if we get rid of Landry, Cromartie, and Revis, what do we have? No LBs, no DBs.