Adam Schefter on X: "Jets have requested head coaching interviews with Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores and QB coach Josh McCown, per sources." / X
Well if nothing else, it sure looks like they are interviewing a long list of candidates…seriously like everyone under the sun except Ben Johnson
I made a post about that on here recently, maybe it was even in this thread, but I broke down how good Brady has been with the offense, what he’s done, what he’s improved on, etc. so I am pretty emphatic that he’s had a remarkable effect on the offense and it’s not all Allen, but I also have no idea about whether he’d be a great HC. I don’t really know anything about his leadership capabilities, I think I saw recently he’s like only 35 years old or something. I’m not sure how he’d be as a HC but I can definitely say he’s a damn good offensive coordinator.
IMO making the leap to head coach this fast might be a tad to fast. It's probably better for him to run an offense for at least another year or two and develop leadership.
Who are you referring to? Apparently they are going below OC and DC in a number of cases. I hope we stick with an experienced HC that is know for discipline and over achieving with less than top talented personnel. IMO both Vrabel, Flores fit that bill. Kingsbury and Monken are intriguing possibilities albeit I don’t know about the discipline factor.
Ken Dorsey also led the Bills to the second ranked scoring offense in 2022 and second in yards. I get that maybe for whatever reason that Brady runs a better offense especially because he seemingly coached the turnovers out of Josh Allen. Daboll was also heralded as the guy who developed Allen and then goes on to lead one of the leagues worst offenses 2/3 years and was about league average in the other year. So yeah I have some pause as to if Brady is a really good coordinator or just has possibly the best player in the league.
The Bills OC. I want experienced head coach. Heck I would even take Mike McCarthy which is saying a lot but im sick and tired of losing and im sure we would win games with him.
It just reminds me of Gase to much. I remember everyone was clamoring over Gase because he took Peyton to a new level. Which he actually did BUT Peyton wasn't coming with him to the Dolphins or the Jets. Same applies for Brady. Maybe Brady is taking Allen to a new level, but Allen is not coming with him here nor will they be able to find a QB that plays similar to Allen. Also like you said, Daboll got credit for developing Allen. Allen probably was going to be good regardless of who coached him (unless it was the jets). Daboll hasn't developed anyone since.
As an outsider I can understand, but for bills fans who study the bills and watch the games, the contrast in offense is striking. I really give very little credit to Daboll. In his prior stints, daboll had bottom 5 offenses in the league. When he was at Alabama, Jalen hurts looked like an awful qb who couldn’t throw the ball under. He transfers and immediately goes from the bench to winning the heisman trophy. The credit goes to Josh and Jordan Palmer in their offseason training. Daboll had nothing to do with that, and in fact it was widely reported that daboll and McDermott hated each other because daboll was such a stubborn arrogant prick. Under Dorsey, you can’t just look at the rankings. The results may look similar but how they got there was very different. The offense was so bland and unimaginative that Josh had to be Superman to get anything done. We couldn’t run the ball for years. Every yard required so much labor and effort from Josh to make a heroic play, and he often did, because he’s Superman. But that’s why all the talk for 2 years was “you can’t keep asking Josh to do this all by himself. He needs help.” Dorsey was fired a year and a half into his tenure. Brady was able to fix things that 2 other coordinators couldnt. We are finally able to run the ball, something we havent been able to do since Shady McCoy in 2016. He's been able to do it with 3 different backs in Cook, Johnson and Davis. How he's utilized each running back to their skilset has been incredible. We ran mostly zone-blocking run schemes when Cook was the back and power gap schemes when Davis was in. The offensive line was able to coordinate both, and as the season's progressed, they are now run interchangeably with both backs. Cook led the league in rushing touchdowns this year. The offensive line has come together to form what most consider to be a top 10 unit, and Brady did that with players who were either terrible under the past 2 coordinators (Spencer Brown, and Dawkins was extremely inconsistent) and backups from other teams (David Edwards and Connor McGovern). He's found a way to scheme an efficient passing attack despite no #1 or #2 receivers on the roster. Mack Hollins as the most receiving touchdowns this year and he's been a career special teams player for like 8 years. Khalil Shakir emerged as a really good slot receiver. He utilizes 2 TE's really well with Kincaid and Knox. He's crafted an offense that is in the top 5 of the league despite no real weapons to speak of, think about that. This Bills team has scored the most touchdowns in franchise history and there's not even any elite players on it lol. All of these little things were complaints bills fans have had for the last 5 years, which maybe nationally were not really known about because all national media sees are the wins or Josh Allen's heroics. Its been much, much easier for Josh Allen to play this year. The pre-snap motion has been incredible to watch. There is much less labor and heroics required from Josh to make it work. This was the easiest he’s had in imo, he hasn’t had to struggle to play hero ball in order to get points. There’s a thousand other things schematically that are different that I’ll save because this post is so long, but yeah, Brady is a really good coordinator.
Thanks for that, it's good to hear from someone who actually watched every Bills game. It's quite clear he is way better than Daboll and Dorsey. I also recall many people saying Bills will drop off this year since they lost Diggs and some other players, but the opposite happened. Another thing to remember is that Brady is just 35. He may still be improving. To me, out of everyone requested for the interview, he seems like the best guy. Unfortunately we are not getting Ben Johnson, who let the Jets know he doesn't want to be here, but I am surprised why the Jets haven't requested Monken, Coen, and Kingsbury. Hoping they will come in the second wave. But so far, Brady, in spite of some red flags that people pointed out, seems like clearly the best guy. Plus weakens the Bills too and maybe poaches some guys from there as well, which is a plus.
This is fair. But, he may also be way better than Gase. Manning is a unique case where he is not just a great QB, but he is as close to a coach as a QB gets. He is one guy where coach is least important and he was already polished when Gase had him. I don't think Allen is like that. He made a lot of mistakes, he was certainly no coach, and he lost top WR he had, without whom he actually struggled before. And he took his game to the next level with Brady. I think there is a good probability Brady will be way better than Gase and I would be ecstatic if he is the hire. especially given the other names on the interview list, which I think aside Brady (tier 1 candidate) and maybe Vrabel as a tier 2 guy is very weak. Plus he is very young and might actually get better as a coach.
It doesn't matter. I've finally come to a point where I truly believe that this team is going to be awful for as long as it's owned by the Johnsons. All the signs point that Woody's son, who's now 18 or 19, will be the next owner. So, they are gonna suck for as long as I live and beyond...
This is the only answer to the question. It doesn't matter who the next guy is. Whoever it is, he's going to fail. Some of the people on this list will just fail harder than others.
Agreed on Monken, Cohen and Kingsbury…we should be talking to offensive guys. Instead we waste time with Ron Rivera Ugh
All of the HC interviews we've done to this point, and will do the rest of the week, are wastes of time. Already interviewed Rivera and Vrabel (who it couldn't be more clear is headed to the Pats), Rex today, Nagy tomorrow, Ulbrich sometime this week (although it's the right thing to do giving him an interview). I guess these are practice interviews so Woody can practice his different answers for the questions that will inevitably come from prospective head coaches about all of the nonsense that has been reported about the franchise's dysfunction over the course of the season.
