Ron Rivera will bring some stability to this team. I would take him over anybody except Vrabel. And Vrabel is my choice just because he is younger and can stay with us for a long time as long as he can find his QB.
Exactly. Past accolades also don't mean whole lot, either. Aaron Rodgers has won the MVP 4 times. That certainly isn't translating to his time here, that's for sure.
The Athletic is reporting that "Vrabel is expected to prioritize openings with a positive ownership situation and teams with either a quality quarterback in place or a path to getting one in the near future." That doesn't sound like the Jets, does it? Putting the Rodgers situation to the side, Band-Aid Boy Woody can hardly be described as a "positive ownership situation."
You have a point. We don't have a good ownership but he might find Rodgers, Devante Adams and Garrett Wilson attractive. We never know. Also he didn't have much takers and his top choices might go with some hot Coordinators like Ben Johnson etc. So Vrabel will say to Jets if we make him an offer imo.
If that's what he's finding attractive about this job, then they need to steer clear of Vrabel (although, they need to do that anyway). Two of those three definitely need to be sent packing, maybe all three of them. The new GM needs to look at trading off whatever he can to stockpile draft picks and finally build this the right way, not double down on an extremely overrated roster that has done nothing other than lose in spectacular fashion and then talk, talk, talk about how fantastic they are despite not one shred of evidence to back any of that up.
One of the main things the 33rd team needs to be consulting Woody on is to make sure his PR team is hard at work trying to quash a lot of these media pieces about the negative, toxic (fill in the blank) ownership situation/culture here. Obviously, the stories are already out there but it doesn't mean that he can't have his staff doing everything in their power to try to dim the negative rhetoric. Gotta put a lid on that as much as they can asap.
right, f Devante as well. coming in here making speeches when he just arrived. f that guy. maybe f Garrett too... 4th most targeted receiver in the league. still moaning.
He's not a bad head coach. I think his time in Washington hurt his status. He just was not able to find a QB while there. I would not write him off completely because he likely is a better option than 75% of the other names mentioned but perhaps not the best (but we don't know who is but someone sitting there probably is better)
On the other hand I’m Suprised rivera even showed enough interest to interview for this circus. So there’s always that
Flores won games with a shit roster his first season. He def wasn't fired because he couldn't coach. I think 2 of the things you listed here as negatives are actually positives - you're right, he didn't want Tua, he wanted Herbert instead, which it isn't even close to who is the better QB. He wasn't afraid to speak up to the GM/owner, which IMO is the exact type of guy we need. He would have no tolerance for the penalty nonsense and the lack of accountability that has hung over this team the last 3 years. I would think that as a humbled guy who learned from prior mistakes at his first job he would be hungry to re-write his reputation. I can't speak to the lawsuit as to whether it's valid or not, hopefully the courts will figure out the best course of action. I will say he burned through OC's, so that isn't a great look, but hopefully that would be part of his learning experience. Also love that he's a New Yorker and is def tough...
I don’t blame him. I don’t want him here either, but I respect him for basically saying “I will not coach the New York Jets”.
Vrabel was 54-45 (0.545) in the regular season and 2-3 in the playoffs. Ryan was 46-50 and 4-2 with the Jets and 61-66 / 4-2 overall. Rivera was 76-63 (0.546) and 3-4 with the Panthers and 102-103 / 3-5 overall
I determine success in terms of playoffs. Ryan got his team to two championship games. Rivera got his team to the Super Bowl. Im not saying Vrabel is bad by any means but he had a better situation than Ryan and Rivera had and didnt take his team as far as Ryan and Rivera did.
The team is in an extraordinarily untenable situation. The whole league knows it's a shit show, it doesn't take leaks from JD, Saleh or anyone else. They have a 14 season playoff-less streak going which puts ALL the necessary emphasis on the shit show. I find it kind of laughable that "we" are still even bothering to use our last regime as an excuse to the media storm. The Jets suck, it's fact and that is the long and short of it. This mess has been going on long enough now that even the most fringe GM/coach is going to think long and hard before signing on to try and exercise the demons. The only reason dudes like Rex Ryan even bother to float their name is because he knows no other place is going to give him a shot to be the Head Coach. If his ego would allow him to be a DC again he'd have his pick of open spots but that's not where he is. Those floating Jon Gruden's name are just as delusional. Not only does that guy have what most would call a mediocre HC record but he has a seriously nasty reputation problem to overcome on top of it. NY is NOT exactly the best place to come out from under that kind of scrutiny. At this point, in this team's history, the next GM and HC is a set of names that no one has uttered. Because anyone with a remote shot at anything else is going to bypass the Jets so that their resume isn't tarnished by the Jets never ending dumpster fire. ALL these top notch coordinators being floated for HC jobs are going to go absolutely everywhere but the Jets. If all the HC jobs are snapped up then I'd wager they stay where they are. Being a coordinator in a successful program is a LOT better than anything the Jets are going to have to offer and that's a fact. The folks throwing out the whole scenario of the Jets "lucking" into someone have more of a grasp on what is actually going to happen than any of these other ideas I see floating around. Write it down: No top shelf coordinator is coming to this nightmare Pete Carroll isn't coming to bail out the Jets with Woody Johnson helming ownership Brian Flores isn't coming to this team. If he intends to coach beyond the NY Jets he will NOT entertain coming to the NY Jets. My guess is, because this is his second go around and he's not super old, he will want to knock the next job out the park. He'll stay in Minny before coming to NY Which leads me to...no existing or previous HC is coming to this team if they have any designs on being a HC for any reasonable amount of time in the future, this is a last stop destination for a last gasp attempt at remaining a HC If Rex Ryan is hired, I'll be out as a Jets fan. In fact, if Johnson hires ANY previous Jets HC the same statement applies. He/they couldn't do it the first go around and all this will tell me is that Johnson continues to run a shit show and has no desire to actually put the dumpster fire out Anything else is up for debate...
