You think Adam Gase will learn from his mistakes?

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  1. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Call it ridiculous if that makes you feel better but Ross was indeed prepared to fire Gase in January 2018, not so much for his coaching performance but for his off the field actions and personality. He got a reprieve and his arrogance, ego and bizarre behavior only worsened. He refused to discuss football matters with the guy who signed his paycheck and had probably already sealed his fate before telling the owner, essentially, to fuck off at the end of the 2018 season.
     
  2. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    And how lucky was that for us?

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  3. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    29th ranked D , 31st ranked O.
    Subjective at best.....
     
  4. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Who knows at this point? Has Gase done a single thing to make the NY Jets a better football team?
     
  5. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    The Joe Douglas hire looks pretty good....don't you think?
     
  6. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    What I think is that Douglas has an impressive resume. Time will tell.

    But what does that have to do with Adam Gase?
     
  7. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    I believe that they played water polo together in college...

    But back to your question as to what he's done so far.

    What has any coach in the league done this off-season?

    He installed a new offence.
    He shed a couple of players.
    He patched up the situation with Le'Veon.
    He took the team to play put-put golf.

    He did not tell anybody to fuck off.

    Or is that what you expected?
     
  8. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    I expect little; that way it's hard to be disappointed.

    We will have to wait and see if his new "offence" is better than the old offense.
    We will have to wait and se what his relationship is with Bell.
    We will have to wait and see when, and whom, he tells to fuckoff first.

    The rest of what you cite doesn't matter at all to me.
     
  9. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    I get your "wait & see" attitude.

    We all have it to different degrees. DWC is at one end and Champ69 is at the other.

    You evaded my question above...What has any coach in the league done this off-season?

    I'd wager a guess and say that Adam Gase has done more to change the nature of his team than any other coach in the NFL.

    Of course we'll have to wait and see if it's for the better.
    The bar was set down low by Mac & Bowles.

    Oh by way...do you actually think Adam Gase wasn't the main reason we landed Joe Douglas?

    Or are you just being silly?
     
  10. Ralebird

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    I don't know what any coach in the league has done and I don't care because until the season starts nothing matters. Feel free to guess at whatever you want about Gase; his only rateable body of work as a head coach is in Miami; it was not a success. The "nature" of an NFL team is such a vague, subjective concept I see no reason to even speculate about it.

    Why even bother referencing MacCagnan and Bowles? They are history; attempting to gauge today's guys against them is an exercise in futility.

    I don't give a tiny crap if Gase was one percent of the reason Douglas was hired or a hundred percent of the reason; they both have jobs to do, just do them. On the other hand, I believe Douglas would have, and should have, been considered for the job even if Adam Gase never existed on the face of the earth.

    I would refer you back to the title of this thread before you get farther afield.
     
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  11. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    You're just being diffident.

    You asked what Gase has done to help the Jets win.
    I give you a few valid things and you dismiss them out of hand.

    You can turn a blind eye to the importance of getting rid of Mac and landing a Joe Douglas.
    That's your prerogative.

    So let me ask you two questions....

    -What mistakes has Adam Gase made with the Jets?
    -Are the NY Jets better off today than they were a year ago?
     
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  13. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Diffident? Hardly. Much more like disinterested. I'm interested in football games, not pep rallies.

    I asked the rhetorical question of has Gase done anything to make the NY Jets a better football team. The answer is that it's too soon to tell, they have yet to play a single down. I have no need to turn a blind eye to anything because nobody has done anything of significance - it's too early for that no matter how "valid' you believe your points are. Why must guys here be looking to heap accolades so prematurely and also exhibit a need to have others agree with them?

    Ask all the questions you want, but if you want me to answer make them relevant to something I've posted. I said nothing about Gase making mistakes here and none of us will know if the Jets are better off today than a year ago until they play some games.
     
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  14. Biggs

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    The Jets have a much better front office and coaching staff today than they did the day before Gase was hired. This team is still handicapped by Mac's failure to address the defensive backfield and OL. In spite of the splashy signings this wasn't a great off season for the roster. Buffalo schooled Mac this offseason. The offseason like the season is a competition. We have improved but we have huge holes that can and will be exploited pending some additions before the season.

    The fact is Gase is playing with Mac's players. There are some good ones and some really bad ones. Gase saw what he saw and had the foresight to get rid of the major problem holding the team back. The guy who was putting together the roster. The coaching staff is better and deeper. The front office looks like it's making major changes to improve the roster.

    Gase is working his ass off to improve this team. Did I mention that Mac was canned? This team looks like a professional managed for the first time since Parcell's put together one of the greatest coaching staffs in NFL history. What Parcell's didn't do is put together a top end front office.
     
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  15. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    it's already been discussed and i agreed that in the end there is no objective way to grade a coach so yeah it's subjective. you seem upset to randomly reply to a comment i already agreed was wrong. you might want to give that a try yourself sometime. you know a little self reflection and a little admitting you are wrong :)
     
  16. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    Naaa, I m racist remember..... Lol
     
  17. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    I'm hardly heaping accolades nor do I have a need to have others agree with me.

    Different opinions is what makes this place fun & interesting.

    I'll check back in on you when the games start.
     
  18. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    nah you just can't read sarcasm with the helpful /s ;)
     
  19. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    No what I can't read is the following sentence:
    "only you have one defending a bad comment lol "
    WTF were you attempting to say?
     
  20. GeshJet

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    I amazingly agree with every one of these points. I'm probably older than the rest of you, and have seen a lot of jets coaches and general managers. This coaches/GM team seems to me to the best I have seen with the Jets in a long long time.
     
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