That's exactly what I am about Gase. Skeptical. I know there's a chance he's actually a great coach who got held back by Miami. But I'm not banking on it.
i mean with our history it's always fair to be skeptical. I just hope he proves you wrong as i'm sure you hope the same
Opinion is always subjective. He made a reasoned argument for his subjective opinion. Every opinion on this board is subjective. Calling it subjective isn't really a reasoned argument. Being skeptical like being optimistic about what might happen is based on nothing more than past experience minus expectations. As a football fan my expectations for Gase is extremely high. Based on my past experience rooting for the Jets my expectation is any new coach is eventually going to create an unmanageable cluster fuck. Another way to look at Gase in Miami is as an actually Jets fan. As a Jets fan I'm encouraged that Miami sucked when they didn't have a healthy QB and I was discouraged when they made the playoffs with a healthy ok QB. I look at Gase having a shitty record in Miami as a net positive because I'm a Jets fan. I always like Miami having a shitty record. It's one of the reasons I like Gase. That's just my unbiased take on subjectivity. I wouldn't read to much into it.
Excellent article. Incidentally, it's exactly the type of article that gets you frustrated when you read Cimini's clickbait the other 99% of the time.
The one thing that keeps me optimistic about Gase is the incredible (almost crazy) passion & work ethic and just outright love of football. As well as his incredible belief in himself Yes Rex was sort of this way too...but the difference is Rex was kind of a buffoonish carnival barker as well. Gase isn't like that. He doesn't care about the media, what's said about him, who likes/doesn't like him...goofy memes about his eyes. Doesn't give a shit at all. It's all football and no nonsense
And that is what killed his chances in Miami. He should endeavor to develop a credible belief in himself. Perhaps if he had spent some time grinding it out as an insurance salesman he'd have a broader sense of life in general and not be looking to capture the "swagger" he so admires in other coaches. Humility is a great trait to acquire.
I doubt swagger means much to him. That's Rex you're talking about. Gase wants to win and wants to surround himself with those off a similar passion and approach. That's why Mac and his slow pace, indecisiveness, and lack of leadership ultimately had to go. That's why the uninspiring befuddled Bowles had to go
Wrong. Read the Cimini piece; Gase is a big admirer of swagger. No reference to Ryan or Bowles required.
You're reading too much into a meaningless quote where he's trying to compliment somebody. Gase has confidence and plenty of it...which is good. But he won't be a clown/loudmouth like Rex
Gase came here and realized that Mac was too meek, too glacial in his approach...and just needed somebody with more energy and more on the same page. And that landed us Joe Douglas who was probably one of if not the most coveted non GM exec in football
Rex Ryan has nothing to do with the success or failure of Adam Gase and admiring some guys swagger is not at all like being a "clown/loudmouth." Continuing to try to draw comparisons with different actors in the past says nothing about the guy in the present. You can characterize a quote as trying to compliment someone, I read it as hero worship. Here's exactly what it said: "He just had this sweet swagger about him," he said of Martz, who was several years removed from his "Greatest Show on Turf" days with the St. Louis Rams. "It was really cool to be around." "Sweet swagger...really cool?" Put your eyes back in your head, man; that's the talk of a twelve year old.
I don't even get what the issue is here. Gase was trying to find his way in the NFL at the time. And I guess he saw that it was important to have that confidence, be innovative, take risks etc. That's what he's getting at in that quote if you remember what kind of coordinator Martz was But Gase has a quieter intensity/confidence. He's not going to be all that quotable or seek attention. If he needs to ruffle feathers it's going to be done behind the scenes
I guess the issue here is whether swagger is an asset or a detriment to accomplishing the task at hand. Martz may have earned his swagger, but for some unproven guy to come along and attempt to emulate the swagger without first displaying the substance can be a problem as Gase proved in Miami. That, was done for the world to see, not behind the scenes; Steve Ross gave him an extra year to prove himself and all he did was get worse.
It's rare to find a solid NFL HC pedigree for a 40 year old...but Ross wanted him back for 2019-2020 and it was Gase who evaluated the situation and deemed it undesirable. And remember he did make the playoffs year one, and lose his starting QB in year 2 AND 3. That's a big factor
I disagree completely. Ross was ready to fire Gase at the end of the 2017 season, only a last ditch effort got Gase the 2018 season. When that season went south and Gase got increasingly crazy to the point where he essentially told the owner to fuckoff his fate was sealed. There was absolutely zero chance of Gase staying in Miami for the forthcoming season. Why do you think he has a "solid NFL HC pedigree" when his experience has been failure?
Every coach, even Belichick, makes mistakes...the smart ones identify and correct them...without letting their ego get in the way. And that just may be Gase's most glaring fault. Here's an article that outlines some of Gase's mistakes in Miami last year. The one about the tight end usage is interesting. Former Dolphins head coach Adam Gase's 3 worst decisions of 2018 Kyle Crabb-Dolphins Wire Former Miami Dolphins head coach Adam Gase is no longer the concern of Dolphins fans — with the exception of two weeks out of every year when the New York Jets arrive as the next team up on the schedule. And while Gase experienced terrific success against his new team (5-1 against the Jets during his time in Miami), the tenure of Adam Gase in South Florida was filled with frustrating errors, miscues and mistakes. After a successful 10-6 season in 2016, Gase had some benefit of the doubt after flailing to 6-10 the following season. But during the 2018 season? Gase saw his credibility crumble under the shallow foundation Mike Tannenbaum had constructed for the team and Gase’s own poor judgement in a number of areas. What stands out? Here are Adam Gase’s three worst coaching errors of his final season with the Dolphins. Retaining defensive coordinator Matt Burke all season Five times. Five times in Dolphins history the team has finished with a point differential greater than -100 points. The team’s first two seasons of existence under George Wilson (1967 and 1968), the hapless 1-15 team of 2007 under Cam Cameron and the last two seasons under Adam Gase and Matt Burke. If you thought the team’s 393 points allowed and -112 point differential was bad in 2017, Burke was retained and one upped himself — his defense game up 433 points in 2018. From the sound of things, Burke’s defensive game plans were flaky — Minkah Fitzpatrick referenced this offseason that the team would change their plans for his usage mid-week. The communication was ineffective — rookie linebacker Jerome Baker mentioned he recognized bad calls being made last year — but bit his tongue due to his lack of experience. And the Dolphins simply could not cover the middle of the field. Raekwon McMillan was left to prowl significant space all by his lonesome. All of this despite the team finishing 2nd in the NFL in interceptions. Imagine how bad things would’ve been without the turnovers. Ultimately, Gase should have made a change — the defense certainly needed it. The final possessions against the Indianapolis Colts The Dolphins were in control entering the 4th quarter against the Indianapolis Colts this past fall in a pivotal AFC showdown. The Dolphins led by 10 with 9 minutes remaining in the 4th quarter and once the Colts had to settle for a 46-yard field goal with 8:26 remaining to cut the score to 24-17, the Dolphins had an 86% chance to win the game. They lost 27-24. It wasn’t just that the Dolphins gave up 13 unanswered points in the final eight and a half minutes. It’s what the Dolphins did with the football. Miami’s final two possessions against the Colts were 6 plays for -1 yard. As a team trying to milk the clock. Once the Colts cut the score to 24-17, Gase came out firing with two consecutive pass plays — both incomplete. 3rd and 10 became 4th and 15 after Kenyan Drake was hauled down in the backfield and the Colts suddenly had the ball back after a three and out. It would take the Colts less than four minutes to score a touchdown and tie the game. Stephone Anthony was charged with a holding penalty on the ensuing kickoff and Miami took over from their own 6-yard line with 4:20 remaining in a tie game. The Dolphins tried a run up the middle, a quick throw to DeVante Parker and then a draw to Kenyan Drake on 3rd and 10. In a season full of “shoulda, coulda, woulda”, this series of events is as poor as it gets for Adam Gase’s game management. The usage of Mike Gesicki The Dolphins added Mike Gesicki in the 2nd round of last year’s NFL Draft. His NFL profile was exciting for the fact that he’s something Miami hasn’t had in quite some time — a flex tight end who can stretch the seam and get vertical. But then the season came. And Adam Gase elected to implement Mike Gesicki in all the same ways a traditional tight end is used — and then some. Twenty percent of Gesicki’s plays in 2018 were used in pass protection, a frustratingly high number. Sure, the Dolphins offensive line had issues. But using your finesse pass catcher as the supposed solution not only makes little sense, but it hinders the development of a young asset. https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2...d-coach-adam-gases-3-worst-decisions-of-2018/
the hoodie didn't exactly set the league of fire in cleveland, and had a pretty talented staff. so, yes gase can learn from his mistakes. so can the johnson brothers. bringing in joe douglas and changing the front office was a good move, as the draft record from rounds 2-5 recently showed the results were just not good enough.
Ross was going to fire him 1 year removed from a playoff season, after his 2nd season overall where he had to scramble and make something out of Jay Cutler (and he actually got a decent year out of him)? That's ridiculous BTW the Harbaugh stuff was floating around Miami too with Ross. So Gase had that hanging over his head
