All they come back with is atmospherics and wishful thinking. Get used to it. It's not the Smith Fans are going to change and suddenly produce good arguments based on persuasive evidence. I have yet to see that.
And folly like "Geno at his best is better than Fitz at his best" all the while conveniently ignoring that Geno at his worst is worse than Fitz at his worst. Fuck it, roll the dice--what does one loss mean in such a marathon of a season? _
Its really simple...Fitz blows as a starter and has proven it over his long career Geno also blows as a starter so far however the book has not been fully written on him...His last few games he played he looked better than Fitz ever has, making plays Fitz will never be capable of So yeah it's crazy for us to want to see if he can keep that play up or even improve while we stick with a backup caliber player? If Fitz was an actual decent starting QB there would be no discussion but he's not....He's one of the worst starters currently playing If you can't separate his play vs our record that's on you....We won plenty of games with Sanchez playing poorly because of dominant defensive efforts with Rex too Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Good points. But if the offense continues to lean this heavily on Ivory the rest of the way the Jets are in trouble. Powell was available against the Eagles, too.
This makes no sense man. You're saying Fitz blows and is "one of the worst starters currently playing" yet were 3-1 because of our defense. Don't you remember Geno Smith as being THE WORST starting QB in the NFL 13 and 14!? Do you miss the pick 6's? The sensless sacks or running into pressure because he lacks the ability to process? You just don't learn this shit man. I also wish he could because he has more God given talent than Fitz. But he's proven he just doesn't get it. Dosent get it on or off the football field. Your also neglecting to understand the importance of leadership, especially at the QB position. Geno isn't a leader of men and Fitz is. At this point Fitz and his limitations give us a better chance to win than Geno and his God given arm talent. If it was all about arm talent, Jeff George would have been inducted to Canton years ago
There's that. But they also needlessly and without basis dump on Fitzpatrick. They want to see him as awful rather than average. They know Smith is not average. Rather than recognize average is better than Smith, they dump on Fitz. 3-1 is not good for these guys. I saw it coming. They know it makes it less likely their favorite player ever will get in there. Rough times for Smith Fans.
How can you ignore the fact that he was a young player in a poor situation with probably the worst coach for a developing QB? Quite honestly Geno should have never seen the field until the end of year 2. A coaching staff that understands offense is doing the right thing with Petty now. I'm just going by his last few games and combining that with the situation he would be in now. Maybe he never gets it but Fitz is not good enough to get in the way of finding out. And Fitz is not an average starter.....please name 10 worse starting QBs if you really believe that The Jets defense shutdown and caused 5! turnovers in each of the Colts and Browns games....Geno wins those and really almost any QB wins those for us. The Eagles game we lost and a better QB performance in the first half and who knows? Miami we dominated as well and not really because of Fitz Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You are one who needlessly and without basis dumps on Fitzpatrick. If you look at his record, he's played with some really lousy defenses, which means he was often playing from behind. Concededly you don't play a game manager's approach when you're down by a score or two with less than 20 to play. You take chances you wouldn't take otherwise. That's the game. That's what you are expected to do as a Qb no matter what your comfort zone. Fitzpatrick is now playing for a team with an excellent defense. And a solid running game. You dont want a Qb on a team like that to make mistakes and let the other team get back in it. You want someone who plays efficiently, complementing the running game. Sure he's thrown interceptions, but they have mostly been long punts, half on either tipped balls or a PI call that wasn't. None of his mistakes have changed the course of the game. Says here Fitzpatrick's past record with teams where he was often behind and had to take chances to get a win doesn't mean shit now. Since your agenda is to view the 15 season as a chance for Smith to vindicate himself above all else, I expect you will not acknowledge this, and keep on in full Smith Fan mode to fantasize about significantly improved play from the worst Qb in the league the last two seasons.
And the bullshit about how stellar he was the last few games of 2014. 2013 is calling and they want their stellar last few games back. _
Ok guys young QBs never improve...it never clicks...they are what they are from day one I'm not even saying Geno would definitely be the better option...just that it's worth the gamble. Some people don't like Geno and some people just don't think it's worth the gamble. Done with this argument for now...no hard feelings Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I've been on Fitzpatrick a ton the last 2 weeks because I see a roster that can win a playoff game or 2 if the QB doesn't suck, and he's sucked. But one thing that's really impressed me is his work in the 2 minute drill. Is it just me or does it seem like he scores a touchdown before the end of every half? He's very productive in moving the ball quickly and efficiently in those situations. Maybe we should try to incorporate more no huddle/up tempo into the offense?
I think those that want Geno Smith to start, really need to look at the work Fitz does pre-snap. The offensive line has been really solid in pass protection and I think our fans need to give credit to Fitzpatrick. While Fitzpatrick has limitations throwing the ball down the field, he's putting the offense in a better situation to succeed - you can see the # of sacks are limited and Fitz knows where he wants to go with the football. Geno Smith isn't going to do the things Fitzpatrick can do, the only real advantage Geno has is his ability to throw the ball deep. To me that's not enough to bench Fitz.
Totally agree....he has been impressive in the 2 minute drill. I would like to see more of that from time to time for sure Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Fair point but that's where practice and coaching comes in....You have to hope that Geno and Petty are learning every day from the staff, studying on their own, and watching Fitz. He does do a good job in this aspect because he needs to....that's the only way he has lasted in this league Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I'm done. If you'd rather fantasize about the what ifs with Geno and not enjoy the 3-1 start....you're more than welcome to. I believe that you're a Jets fan who hopes we have something better on the bench. I'm from the school of, don't mess with a good thing. A bird in the hand is better then two in the bush my friend
Absolutely. We may have a revamped Wr corps, but our Qb limits those assets to slants and short throws sooo, we have to play smashmouth and on occasion, throw a deep ball to keep teams honest.
That's why Fitz is starting because he's the better QB. If Geno showed this ability, he would be the starter, but that's not the case.
Potential... Potential... Potential... That's all I'm hearing from the Genobots. Lets just forget the past 2 years, wipe the slate clean and start over. Hell, we haven't won shit in 47 years so why not bench a Qb when we're 3-1 to see what a Qb that's only shown rare flashes of competency can do. His best game ever came against a Miami team last season that had nothing to play for and mailed the game in. Missed meetings, un-paid debt, unfulfilled commitment, getting punched by a teammate and ill advised tweets all speak to a lack of maturity but hey, he's Geno so lets just give him the benefit of the doubt based on what exactly???? Why not let Geno sit THIS year and learn since we all agree he's chock full of Potential. Also bear in mind that only John Idzik saw this potential when NO ONE else in the NFL did or was willing to take a chance on the kid. We're not winning the SB this year folks no matter who's Qb'ing this team. If Petty shouldn't see the field this year, why should Geno?
King Koopa against the world..LMAO When Geno is off the team or part of a trade package this whole debate will be history. RIP
