You People Blaming Fitz are Ridiculous

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  1. KWJetsFan

    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    As I've stated in previous posts, whether it's Geno or Fitz, we don't have a QB. Geno hasn't showed anything other than being a turnover machine. Hell, I hope he turns out to be our franchise QB. If the potential was there, don't you think the coaching staff would make him the starter the minute he was healthy? Instead, the coach has stated the opposite.
     
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  2. DanR

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    All I'm saying is with Marshall and Decker, Fitz should look better on offense. We finally got WIDE RECEIVERS guys! So what's going on?

    Even in the 2 games we won, our offense looked bad.
     
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  3. fansince90

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    His deep ball may be the reason Geno gets a chance. If Fitz doesn't have the arm strength Devin Smith's deep ball ability will be nullified. He's a possession passer Marshall and Decker are possession receivers.
     
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    No one is saying Fitz looked bad. He has been in the league many years. He is what he is. This is an offensive league defense only brings you so far. Fitz also only can bring you so far. The coaches and the GM know it. He is a good backup who can keep you in the game most weeks but he can only manage a game. He will not put big numbers on the board. Some weeks you need an offensive explosion. Defense is a second class citizen in the NFL.
     
  5. WhySoSerious488

    WhySoSerious488 Well-Known Member

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    I get some defending Fitz on his overall level of play through 3 games, which has at least been league average, but if after today you don't get that we will be seeing Geno at some point this season, you're just blindly defending the guy. Fitz is just not very talented, and his lack of arm strength and physical ability is going to do him in at some point (as it always have). There will be a lot of pressure on Bowles to start Geno after the bye if Fitz struggles again next week.
     
  6. Jetsfansince95

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    Look at the bright side we're not stuck with Colin K lolol 5 of 11 33 yds and 4 INT he makes Geno look like a pro bowler and Fitz a hall of famer ha
     
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  7. Geno007

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    Proven? A guy hasn't proven shit after just 2 years. But a guy has proven a lot in 10 years. 6 teams in 10 years says a lot. A guy who has a problem with ints for 10 years proves a lot.
     
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  8. rscherwin

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    Great post. I agree with you ... with one slight caveat. --- The existing unknown is whether Geno matured as a QB in the offseason, and the impact playing under Gailey and with a legit WR1 would mean. We all know that Fitzpatrick can manage a game, but won't win with his arm - where Geno for his first 2 years couldn't manage a game.

    Geno - if he learns to manage a game, has the potential to win games with his arm.

    My $.02 - we stay with Fitzpatrick for now, and when he gets injured or loses a few more like this, we'll see whether we have a QB of the future in geno. Let's remember that Fitzpatrick was the best and only offseason option. Bowles and Mcagnan will need to make a decision on Geno THIS offseason.
     
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  9. rscherwin

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    And another note for Geno bashers -- Colin Kapernick with a great defense and OL goes to the superbowl. With a team like the Jets had last year he's a stinker.
     
  10. Pocket Jet

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    But he has:
    He has proven he can make the same mental mistakes on the field.
    He has proven that he prefers going to the movies instead of being on time to a team pre-game meeting.
    He has proven he does not know how to show common decency to just pick up a phone and tell someone when he can't keep a commitment. Thus, locker room distraction.
    He has proven that he is not a leader.

    ...and he did this in just 2 years!
     
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  12. KWJetsFan

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    Fitz is mediocre at best, but he has never turned the ball over 41 times in 2 years. 34 picks, 7 fumbles. 41 in TWO YEARS!!! Geno has proven nothing other than he can turn the ball over at an epic rate.
     
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  13. KWJetsFan

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    Agree with everything you said my man.
     
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    If we had some resemblance of a competent special teams, Marshall's split personality didn't get in the way with that horrible decision, Coples doesn't suck, Fitz doesn't lose us this game... He wasn't the reason why we lost... He's just not the reason why we were going to win. Some horrible throws, and decisions.. Almost Geno-esque.. It was scary. I was in 304 and when Geno was warming up, people wanted Fitz to get it going because they didn't want to see Geno.. That says a lot.. Fitz wasn't good today, but he wasn't the sole reason why we lost.
     
  15. Jetsfansince95

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    Coples makes me sick
     
  16. SoulFood

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    OK I'll bite. Ryan Fitzpatrick has shown enough to be in the league 10 years. 6 teams in 10 years says to me that every time one team moves on from him, there's another that thinks he's at least worth keeping around. He's not great, but I guarantee you will not see Geno on a roster in 2023.
     
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  17. Br4d

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    Coples is out of position. The penalty at the end wasn't due to that but the Jets don't put Coples in the best position to succeed at OLB.

    He may be one of those 5 year projects, like Bryan Thomas, however I don't know that the Jets are going to get the benefits of that development if it happens.
     
  18. LongIslandBlitz

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    Fitz had Devin Smith wide open in the endzone and threw the worst pass ever .....the ball looked like a helicopter crashing.BTW I was impressed with the little I saw from Smith given how much time he has missed
     
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    What do you call Fitz throwing into double and triple coverage all the time?
     
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  20. Pocket Jet

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    Not a whole hell of a lot better, but for the time being, he appears to be the best we have until they figure things out. The answer is to obviously draft a franchise QB, and they are not going to resolve this overwhelming need overnight.
     

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