revis is not a douchebag. some fans make me sick the way you can turn on a player so quickly. you love him for the plays he makes on the field and then when it comes time to negotiate a new contract he is a scumbag and should be traded. This is partly in fault of our fanbase for showering him in praise and hyping him up so much. they argue all year that he is the best defensive player in football and then when he wants to be paid like one, you turn your backs? The man has principles and wants to be the highest paid player at his position, as he deserves to be. the fact that al davis gave asomougha a ridiculous contract is not his fault. also, im sure Neil Schwartz and Jonathan Feinsod have nothing to do with his unrealistic expectations.
i agree for the most part, but talking to the media about the same situation everyday and coming to camp just to sit out and is pretty douchey behavior if he was real about this shit then he would just sit out completely and handle it behind closed doors
im sure the recent douchey behavior of the jets front office in terms of player contract negotiations has influenced his behavior.
I was on the "Fuck Revis" bandwagon when the $20M per year story broke. And if it were actually true, I'd still be on it. In this case though, the guy has been insulted. Sure, asking for Aso money is crazy, and undeserved, but I think the key at this point is that the Jets have yet to offer him any guaranteed money. After two offers. If I were any Jet, after seeing Leon's situation last year, and guys like Faneca just get dumped, I'd be fuming if the Jets offered me anything without something guaranteed. That said, Rex is pissed off. I haven't seen anyone post it, but I saw on Twitter that multiple reporters confirmed that Rex was surprised and irritated that Revis sat out to pout, and he planned on having a private conversation with him before the second practice. Revis deserves a big payday. He was told to perform and the Jets would take care of him toward the end of his rookie contract. Revis did his part. He's asking for too much, but the Jets have to be more reasonable than a flat lowball offer. And they have to put some guaranteed money in there.
Am I the only one who thinks both parties are at fault here? The Jets told Revis they would get him a new deal ASAP. Apparently their first offer had no guaranteed money, which is absolutely ridiculous. While I understand that you need to start negotiating somewhere, it was kind of stupid to just insult Revis like that. On the other hand, Revis himself needs to take a look at the big picture. He is the best CB in football and deserves to be paid like the best, but the Aso deal is just absurd. Even Revis must realize that 16 million per year guaranteed is not a realistic number for a team that has a bunch of young talent they need to sign. A long term contract that pays him in the 12-15 million range with a decent amount of guarantees is probably the best he is going to get from us, and unless he is traded to a team without much talent, that's the best he could likely get from any respectable team in the league. Hopefully both sides get their acts together soon. Thankfully the Raiders don't have any young studs on their O-line or at LB so they won't give out any crazy deals that prevent us from working with Mangold, Brick or Harris.
I'm getting to the point where I am with ya WSW. one great player does not win the super bowl, several very, very good ones do. there is no doubt that Revis is great, but unless we can put a supporting cast around him there is no point at giving him 15+ mill a season.
You probably mean the Mike Florio version of contract negotiations... I still don't see where the Jets have ever been douchy and don't give me Pete Freaking Kendall who had a new deal already and pulled some BS.... Or Leon Washington who had a deal on the table and then was injured.... So... who?
Jets are gaining the reputation as an organization that makes players promises that they don't keep. Not good.
Do the Jets make promises they don't keep? Do we have any objective evidence that that is true other than the complaints of players who are let go when they demand a raise? Looking at a case-by-case basis in the Tannenbaum era this is a list of the complaints the Jets fielded: 1. 2007 - Pete Kendall complains that the Jets said they'd readjust his deal if he had a good year. This followed a readjustment in his contract the year before in which he restructured his contract for cap purposes, getting a small bonus in return for pushing parts of his 2006 salary into later years. This is the definitive quote I can find from the NY Times on 7/26/2007: "Kendall said: ''I'd be lying if I said they promised in March that we're going to do this. But from everybody's body language and the things that were said, it really seemed to indicate to me that something was going to get worked out.'' http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F01E3DB113FF935A15754C0A9619C8B63 Body language? You mean how they were leaning as they didn't tell you they would restructure your contract? Did they wink at you or something? You know give you a little elbow in the ribs and tap out "we're going to restructure your contract" in morse code? From this we get the beginning of the Jet's FO lies to players meme. Kendall says that he was not lied too but he intimates that somehow he was due a raise anyway and it is the Jet's FO playing loose with situation for its own benefit. 2. 2008 - Kerry Rhodes wants a new contract and gets nearly a record with 20 million guaranteed. Clearly a case of the Jet's FO being cheap money-grubbers who always look to screw players. 3. 2008 - Laveranues Coles wants a contract extension in the middle of a 4 year deal. The Jets offer to guarantee the last two years of his deal at 11 million but he wants an extension instead. They give him one and some money up front (of course) after little bit of haggling back and forth in the press. Again, the Jets went with what the player wanted. They wound up releasing Coles in the winter of 2009 so he could be a free agent and he released them from the 6 million guarantee they'd just given him the previous season. He chose to sign with the Bengals at that point. This sequence tells me that when the Jets are dealing with some players they can be more than reasonable, they can actually bend over backwards at times. They did this with Vinny too in his latter years with the team although that was not with Tannenbaum as GM. 4. 2008 - Chris Baker is released in the winter of 2009 after signing a 3 year contract extension the previous season with a lot of money in the last two years. He had held out of OTA's and training camp working on the 3rd year of a 4 year deal (half done) despite the Jets drafting Dustin Keller in the 1st round that spring. The Jets finally gave him his extension at the end of camp before the 1st game. It was a slight raise for 2008 and a bunch of money in 2009 and 2010. Ok, so this is a case where they definitely exercised questionable judgment. It was probably better for them just to have him play under the existing contract or cut him at the end of camp. He wasn't a key player for them and they already had his replacement in house. Signing him to the deal that they had no intention of keeping was an iffy PR move. They deserve some of the fallout in the clubhouse for this. 5. 2009 - Leon Washington wants a new deal and he's in his walk year. Nobody really knows what the Jets offered him, however we do know that he was looking for a 5 to 6 million a year deal, a deal that would have required the Jets to get everything they possibly could out of him to make it pay off for them. Leon's camp begins accusing the Jets of acting in bad faith, leaking one set of numbers to the media and offering them a second set that were far lower. This one is going to stay murky because I can't find any definitive source that fixes the offers and counteroffers that went back and forth. The news items that focus on the Jets talk about 6 million dollar a year demands and the news items that focus on Leon and his people talk about 2 million dollar a year offers. In any case there's no question of honesty in this one. Leon wanted more money the Jets would not pay. Eventually he got hurt and they traded him so scratch one off the "Jets are dirty liars" list. 6. 2009 - Thomas Jones wants a raise. He's in the down year of a multi-year contract and he really wants more money now. The Jets say no and that's that. They release him after his best season, which was a big part of the Jet's offense in 2009. This is a simple holdout that didn't work. Nothing to see here beyond the business of football. To his credit TJ did nothing more than represent his position as best he could and you never heard him call the Jets FO liars. 7. 2010 - The Jets release Alan Faneca shortly after the NFL draft. They get out of paying him about 1.6 million of his 7.5 million salary. Again, this is just the business of football. There's no insinuation that the Jets did anything here but release a player to make room for a younger replacement. It's probably true that they were afraid to go with Faneca at LG with a post-surgical Sanchez in 2010 but they did not use this as a crutch to explain the release they just wished Faneca well and moved on. The Jets problems in the last 7 years are largely with the clients of a very small group of agents. If you cut those guys out of the picture everything looks pretty good on the labor front. If you look at just what happened in negotiations where their clients are involved then you'd get the impression the Jets are dirty, double-dealing backstabbers.
Both sides are to blamed here, yes. But I'm a Jets fan and I will side with the Jets over a player. If you are a Revis fan, and he gets traded, enjoy watching him on another team.
At the end of the day though, Revis signed his orginal contract. No one else did. He did. He agreed to it. So he can't blame anyone else but himself. And if the Jets weren't allowed to pay him anymore and he was unhappy about it then he should've went elsewhere. He should got a different job that would pay him 20 million, but now he's mad at the Jets over a contract he agreed to?.... scumbag
I've seen this "no guaranteed money" a lot lately but I remember someone mentioned a few days ago that it wasn't that, that it was just "not fully guaranteed money"... ...what's the difference between those two?
He outplayed the contract. If your gonna use that simple logic then Tanny is a scumbag for not honoring TJ's and Faneca's deals. I mean Tanny agreed to them at the time so he should have honored those deals.... right?
Ok but his contract is for another 3 years. He shouldn't have agreed to it. No one forced him to sign it. So I don't want to hear his his bitching and his threats. Karma will come back to haunt him. Just wait and see.
What was he gonna do, not play football? He has outplayed his contract and is worth a lot more than he is currently being paid, just as TJ and Faneca weren't worth what they were being paid. The business side of football works both ways. You can wish harm or whatever it is you are wishing on him with your karma statements but you best hope your wrong because he is gonna be on this team for the remainder of his career and we don't need the best defensive player on the team getting hurt.
