McShay said this am that the injury wouldn't hurt Mettenberger too much. Said he's not a mobile guy anyway, teams weren't looking at him in that vein. Was probably a 2nd or 3rd rounder and that's where he'll still probably go. Unfortunate that he won't play in the bowl game, but the mental stuff is what folks are going to concentrate on. _
I'll take Brett Hundley over most all of them if he declares. Apparently he is not a sleeper as I thought but a first rounder, but I feel strongly he is the real deal for a QB. And he has the strength to play outdoor in the dead of winter with strong winds. He will look great in green and white.
That's your opinion, you thought Manziel COULD HAVE been a 3rd round pick, with no QBs drafted in the 2nd.
It occurred to me yesterday that it's not a given that Bridgewater comes out. He's a Junior and he has a slight frame for the NFL at this point at 6'3" 196. He may choose to return to college and spend the year trying to effectively add 15 pounds or so. If he's a lock top 5 pick he'll come out but I'm not so sure he's a lock top 5 pick.
Generally speaking once you get beyond the guys with the first round grades, pretty much all the remaining QBs have their varying degrees and combinations of flaws (e.g., size, arm strength, injuries, level of competition, accuracy..etc.). In the later rounds, in addition to getting value I believe the object should be to draft the prospect that comes in with basic fundamental traits that work well with what it is you are trying to do. The traits they lack, you try to coach them up to correct. With this in mind, if I were Idzik I would have been more inclined to draft someone like Nassib in the 3rd or 4th than Geno in the 2nd even though Geno may have graded out better. Geno brought too many deficiencies to coach up. Most young QBs will struggle with the nuances of the game (i.e., reading coverages, moving on from their primary read when it's not there, quickly going through their progressions, manipulating safeties with their eyes...etc). However, when you add, abysmal footwork, slow anticipation, poor pocket awareness, seemingly not being to throw the same ball in inclement weather...etc., it gets to be too much. We want to run the WCO and our guy can't drop back from center. At the end of the day, Geno is simply not good enough and/or drafted high enough to warrant manipulating our offense to accommodate for all his deficiencies. All that rambling about Geno was meant to lead me to Morris. He will struggle with some of the items I mentioned above, but you will not have to work on his footwork as it's very good to excellent. He has a bazooka for right arm. Not one of those fair weather riffles that Geno carries but an all weather cannon. And he comes from a pro style offense so you would no longer have to ignore all of the under center plays in the play book. I don't see him lasting past the 4th round maybe even 3rd. Somebody is going to fall in love with all those tools, especially the arm talent.
Morris is not as inaccurate as his completion percentage would suggest. Most of the season, he's been bothered by a bum ankle. He's also not throwing a good chunk of his passes behind the LOS most of the spread QBs. There are no QB friendly passes in Miami's offense. Pretty much everything is 15-20+ yards down the field. The offense does not allows him to audible at the LOS which leads to a lot of bad post snap situations when the defenses changes coverage at the last second. In those situations, he has definitely been guilty of forcing it in there anyway. Lastly, his WRs drop a ton of balls.
If hundley stays in college too next year will definitely be a better qb year than this one. Imagine if bridgewater stayed as well. That qb class could be legendary.
why? because of his brother? take a look at Aaron Rodgers and Carson Palmer? they both have brothers in the league that aren't stars!
Maybe he'll fall to us at 11. Maybe we could trade back and still get him in the late 20s or early second round. _
He's not saying they'll fall to those rounds. He's just saying if they somehow magically fall to those rounds he'd possibly consider taking them. Like if Carr fell to the 4th round, we should take all the time on the clock before we turn in the card for that extra blocking FB. _
Bradway is the ultimate under-the-radar closet Geno apologist. Any discussion of anyone who could possibly supplant him must be denounced. BWay suggested if Mariota came out he could go as low as the 4th round. He stayed in school, but had he come out he was the consensus 2nd QB and no later than a top 10 pick. But BWay had him possibly available in the 4th round. Consider the source. _
I'm just thinking that Junior QB's don't come out all that often. In fact they have rarely come out in the past. Bridgewater right now is the consensus #1 QB but that doesn't mean he's going to come out. He may make the decision to come out because Juniors do that now and then but he may also decide to stay at Louisville for his Senior year because Juniors also do that. I would think that people who argued long and hard with me about whether Mariota was coming out, and I said early on that I did not think he was coming out for perfectly logical reasons, might decide not to jump in on this one too hard. You might be right or you might be wrong but I was right last time. And much more quietly than you were wrong.
You are a lot more right than wrong from where I sit. You are on the money most all the time. Oh well, hopefully Hundley comes out next year and we have a shot at him. I have been following him closely and I think he just might be the guy we have been waiting for. Seems like in 2014 we might go free agent QB and hopefully heavy on offense on the draft.
If we can grab Clowney at say 15, maybe trade back out of round 2 and get Carr and Evans in the 3rd we might be set up pretty nicely. Hedge our bets and grab Manziel in the 5th or 6th. He is a sophomore after all. _
