do you realize that even perfect passes can be intercepted? doesn't mean it was a bad pass. had he thrown it higher it would have sailed over everyone's head. the pass had to be where it was to give the WR a chance to catch it. the DB just happened to make a very athletic play to take it away that's all. considering most DBs can't even catch the ball if it hit them in the hands, he leaped and make a twisting catch, a very athletic play. To say it was a poor throw/decision is idiotic. Did you even watch the damn game? Vikings were in FG range and didn't need Favre to make such a risky throw! He could have ran the ball or thrown it away and they'd be headed to the Super Bowl!!!!! But you think Sanchez's throw in game 3 of a 16 game season was worse? Wow, what a MORON!
Brees throws a perfect TD pass but WR trips over his own feet and it's intercepted, it's not a perfect pass? Rodgers throws a perfect pass and it bounces off the WR's hands and is picked off and returned for 6, it's not a perfect pass? Raiders DB made a great athletic leaping twisting catch on the Sanchez pass, doesn't mean it was a bad pass.
Clearly the first two aren't on the QB. I didn't know we were getting deep into hypotheticals. And if the CB can reach it, then guess who people are blaming? You're still claiming Sanchez's INT was a good pass. It was an all around bad idea to attempt a pass.
You're under the idiotic assumption that if a pass results in an INT, that it was a bad pass/decision. There's plenty of good passes that were intercepted due to great athletic plays by the DB and not due to poor throws. For example, Jets vs. Chargers in 2010 playoffs when Rivers made a similar pass as Sanchez and it was intercepted by Revis. www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=o8PoD6RHBbg (wont let me post links) Do you blame Rivers "poor pass/decision" for the INT or credit Revis' amazing defense?
Mick I'm suprised as one of Nacho's biggest supporters you cant agree he throws AWESOME INT'S :wink: thats why hes throwing them all over the world in that recent commercial
It might work from time to time, but late, across your body and towards the middle of the field is rarely a good decision. Even less so in a scoring position. Revis playing amazing defense is a reason not to go after him or anywhere near his general vicinity. It also isn't a wise choice by most, if not all, QBs. In both instances, the results tend to be poor.
You're right. Those spirals are so tight and crisp as it falls into the hands of an opposing defender. Such a perfect pass.
Results? The Jets have reached the AFC Champ Game the last two years. With Schotty as the OC, and a rookie and then second year Qb. I think those are very good results. And who said anything about ALL the criticism? My own post you quoted referred to posters who blame Schotty for all of Sanchez's faults. THis is a thread about Sanchez. Unless you also want to blame Schotty for ALL of Sanchez's faults (which is a rather transparent case of denial when it comes to how good or bad Sanchez really is), you might want to address where Sanchez falls short all on his lonesome.
Wow, what an idiot. Again, just because a pass is intercepted does not make it a bad pass/decision! You morons act like the DB was standing around twiddling his thumbs when the ball hit him between the numbers. But that wasn't the case, the DB made a leaping twisting catch that would have otherwise have been a TD! Do you also think this was a bad decision? Or did Polamalu just make a great athletic play? youtube dot com/watch?v=Kqj9j4jne8Y
This is true. however you should mention how Schotty's system was completely neutered in the stretch run and in the playoffs during Sanchez rookie season as quality control on plays was handed to Bill Callahan. People always seem to forget that fact. Schotty was incapable of dialing it back himself and so the Jets put in a mechanism to ensure that Sanchez was protected late that season. That was also the time of big booster-ism by Rex Ryan for Schotty's chances as a head coach. It was almost a "take my wife... please" situation.
And Ryan brought Schotty back for a third season in a row, says great things about him, and gives no indication of disagreeing with him. And the Jets are using a Qb with obvious weaknesses and limitations. And Callahan has his own problems, witness the unit he directly controls having all sorts of problems, including with Hunter, the guy who he talked up all off season as going to step right into Woody's shoes. I also don't know how you conclude "incapable" from the fact that the Jets chose to go a particular route. That choice was made because it had appeal, and need not have necessarily been based on an already proven FACT that Schotty was incapable. I have my problems with Schotty. But I also think the blame for less than stellar offense is shared by a few people. And that Ryan is the HC, he knows what is going on better than I do, is responsible for the performance of this team, and yet retains Schotty despite all that those here complain about. Unless and until they shit can him, or he goes somewhere else on his own, I accept that he is Ryan's choice as the OC.
You bring up an interesting point. I love Rex Ryan, and he definitely knows what's what, more than any of us could ever imagine to, so this isn't going to be a swipe at him at all, but I sometimes wonder if part of the reason Schotty and the offense, whatever the issues are, aren't held accountable more when it's not Sanchez, but Schotty and the other offensive coaches, is if it's because Rex might not always know the full extent of what's going on with the offense. I go back and forth on if I think that or not. Sometimes I do think he knows the full extent... For example: There are times I think he's more involved than less... Seeing as though he has handpicked "The Terminator," Powell, Sanchez, etc as draft choices, and was instrumental in making sure we secured Santonio, short and long term... I mean, us acquiring Santonio was born of Rex telling Tanny after the Indy loss we needed a true playmaker, then running Tanny down the minute he found out Tone was being traded. Rex picked Derrick Mason to be our acquisition, Rex wanted Todd Heap... I mean, there are lots of examples of Rex having his hands all over the construction of the offense. Also, the fact that he wanted Tom Moore to "consult." Maybe recognizing we needed something. But then, there are moments I don't know... For example: Like in yesterday's presser, when Rex can rattle off a stat line and say Mark and/or the offense played really well the whole game, saying, well, the offensive "team" played well because they had this many yards, but then when further pressed about offensive efficiency, truly was unaware that the offense, with two backup DBs in, went from the middle of the second quarter to the middle of the fourth quarter, and could not score a point in between. And he even looked like/implied he had no clue the offense stalled, instead sidestepping that and kind of eluding again to the bottom line that Mark got yards, and blaming the defense for the loss. Although, he did seem to sober a bit when he was told his offense couldn't do anything for that stretch. He said something with the connotation of, he can't look at every play and make an assessment of what the offense is doing and judge them like that, or some such. Someone correct me if I mistook him. I don't know if he sobered because whoever asking the question was pressing him so hard or because he truly was thinking to himself, "Oh, really, we didn't produce when they had backups in for quarters-?" But, it was interesting. And the day prior, Jenny Vrentas said she'd been told by MULTIPLE Jets offensive players that the adjustments on the offensive side of the ball have been too slow, and that's causing a large part of the issues on offense, and asked Rex if he'd agree. Rex again, didn't seem to know, and again just eluded to the fact that the offense had lots of yards, so the adjustments mustn't have been too slow. Which absolutely ignores the fact that Mark had 369 yards... He didn't put up 150 of them UNTIL that stretch in the end of the fourth quarter, which means, yes, the adjustment was slow... Especially when it's taken in to account that 74 of those yards, plus the 19 Santonio had, came to START the game. So, yes, there was a HUGE stall out. So, stuff like that leads me to believe... Maybe he's just looking at the overall performance on offense, and he's not a balance and check for what the offense is doing, thus why there's no accountability for Schotty when the offense continues to stutter. Same with some of the comments about the o-line. Little accountability for the fact that our o-line is damn near playing like the Bears, I'm exaggerating a bit, but still... about to get Mark killed... I mean, Mark was almost concussed, get his arm hurt, and then broke his nose in three consecutive weeks... And Rex is still saying the o-line is playing great, they just need to work on a few things. If the defense was playing even a fraction of how inconsistently the offense always is... I think Rex would be losing his mind. This is why I wonder if maybe he's not watching them that closely right now? Or... If he just publicly won't say certain things about them. But, maybe that's why Schotty's getting to stick, maybe he doesn't know the severity of the inconsistency? I don't know. I go back and forth.
wow give him a break...if we had won Sunday all of you would be on his dick and saying it was his greatest game ever and that he's really maturing. Sunday was not his fault.
Why don't you stop calling everyone who doesn't agree with your OPINION an idiot or moron and listen to their arguments. You know what they say about opinions...... It wasn't a bad decision because it was intercepted, it was a bad decision in terms of the options available and the possible outcomes AT THE TIME. Any time a ball is put in the air three things can happen- and two of them are bad. At that point in the game, that was a bad decision because the odds of a positive outcome were too low. He should have thrown the ball away and assured that they maintained possession (positive outcome.) Now, In the forth quarter, down by 2 scores, and that situation presents itself, then it is more worth the risk that he took. Under those conditions maybe it is a better risk, and therefor a better choice.
Those are mid range patterns that he is running. I haven't seen the Jets run a post pattern so far and I haven't seen any ball go more than 20 yards down the field between the hashmarks. That's the area of the field that Brian Schottenheimer basically ignores. All the middle action is underneath and relies on isolating Keller on a linebacker after the safeties have cleared out.
And with the new rules protecting WRs, the middle is what should be attacked plenty of times. WRs are not afraid to go over the middle anymore.
It's difficult to complete a deep post pattern when you generally have less than three seconds to get the ball out.
