Expanded rosters. Give it a rest about Joba for awhile and see if you can find something else ridiculous to complain about.
The Yankees have won 7 in a row, and 8 of the last 10, so Don resorts to hyperbole to put a Joba dig in. Even after he pitches the 5 or 6 innings he will tonight, like Dierking said, expanded rosters will cover the difference. But you already knew that Don.
What's up is that Girardi's a fool. Or maybe, with a 7.5 game lead, they're just trying to lighten the load on the regular starters and try to get them lined up as they get ready for the postseason. Actually, there's really only one stat being used in either of those: Wins Over Replacement. Nice pie chart, though.
While his incessant negative hyperbole does get tired, I wouldn't expect Joba to go 6 tonight. My guess is he's scheduled for 4 (or 5, max). Albaladejo, Dunn, Melancon, Ramirez. For pitchers, anyway.
*shrug* Who cares how many innings he goes? We have a great lead, a bunch of pitching help, and Joba is just tuning up for being the 4th guy in the postseason. I'd actually like to see Melancon get a couple innings tonight. He always felt underused in his previous stint. Wouldn't mind seeing Edwar too. It's been quite a while. And if they have a nice lead or are getting blown out, I'd really like to see Bruney left out there to sink or swim. EDIT: Your avatars make my heart weep.
Not me... I was just saying I wouldn't expect 6 out of him tonight if they're trying to keep him on regular rest but limit his innings while building his stamina back up between now and the postseason. Although I have to admit that - at this point - it almost seems like they're missing the forest for the trees with the innings limit.
The way the Yankees are playing today, it's like they told me to do them a favor and watch Tulsa-Tulane on ESPN tonight cause this is a disaster!
OK, the NO-NO is over. Now, Joba rules, Joba pitch-count, Joba starter, Joba bullpen, Joba serious, Joba excited. All this after 2 years??? How about all this Joba stuff is just a smoke screen for the fact that Joba sucks. He's no starter, and thanks to all this babying, I doubt he can be a reliever again. Phil Hughes took the job in the pen that was supposed to have been Joba's. My prediction: within 2 years Joba will be in the starting rotation...for the KC Royals. He'll have a brief career and then go away. He should have stuck with the bullpen. Do you want to see him start in the post-season? I sure don't!
I always give Joba the benefit of being young and needing to mature as a pitcher, but he really needs to get over his 1st inning struggles. Throwing 94 in the first was nice to see, he's been in the low 90s to begin the game usually then his velocity gradually goes up. Hopefully it's not just because he knows he going to get limited pitches, and it continues into the post season.
I'll say it again..they should just forfeit every game Chamberlain is scheduled to pitch. That way at least they save the BP for games that they might care about. Hopefully they will just keep him off the postseason roster. They have ruined him totally at this point. 25 runs in 23 innings since they started screwing with him.
Are you kidding me? The guy is 23 years old and you're writing his career off already? Most pitchers don't make it to the bigs until their mid-late 20s, and don't hit their prime until their 30s. I'm real glad you have no authority what so ever regarding the Yankees future. Joba is struggling quite a bit like most young pitchers, but he had also showed signs of a dominant pitcher. Sorry he couldn't be a Lincecum or a Lester, but that's asking a whole lot. Wow Don too... you guys are typical Yankees fans. No patience what so ever.... You are probably the same people who wanted to trade Cano after one down year, and complained about A-Rods production after and during his MVP season
Yeah right on point. It makes no sense to me that the Yankees HAVE to keep Joba as a starter. That's BS. If he could be the heir closer to Rivera then I'd make the switch in a heartbeat. He's clearly not a top line starter or even above average at this point. Yes he's young, however there have been too many young star pitchers in just the last 5 years who haven't needed any of this babying that Joba needs. Lincecum, Dontrelle, Verlander, Bonderman, Greinke, Beckett, King Felix, Lester and the list goes on. They had all become premier starters at around the same age as Joba. He's nowhere near any of those guys as of today. Obviously Dontrelle has other issues now but when healthy was one of the best. Two more years in the rotation isn't suddenly going to make Joba's stuff that much better. Mo will be retiring in 2 years and the Yankees should start grooming Joba to be his replacement. He could either be a dynamic closer which I think he still has a shot to do. Or he could be an average starter that the Yanks will unload in no time. Which would be a bigger asset to the Yanks? It's a no brainer. It's not like the Yanks don't have the money to go pluck another frontline starter in the free agent market. Move Joba to the pen and we could have our closer situation in great shape for the next decade.
None of those pitchers, except Lincecum, exceeded a 40 inning increase from their last year in triple A (or bullpen) to a starter the next year in the bigs. I will not be surprised in the least in Lincecum needs elbow or shoulder surgery in the next few years.
The difference between all of them and Joba is they came into the majors and excelled right away. The inning count increase on Joba only holds weight if he ever becomes a great young pitcher as all of the aforementioned already are. If he doesn't get progressively better next year the whole Joba rules experiment looks like a big waste of a few years.
