This thread is just too funny. What is it with Met fans? It's not our fault your team plays in the most god-awful eyesore in all of sports. It's not our fault your organization has been plagued by mismanagement for so long. It's not our fault you say Carter, I say Yogi. It's not our fault you scream 'roids, and I scream cokeheads. Jeez, it took a guy who not only played many years in our house, but also helped coach us to WS wins in the 90's to straighten out your team. And yes, I know there was baseball before '96. Matter of fact, I spent a few of those years hating baseball for letting money come before the WS. Hell, I was a Yankee fan when we had guys like Balboni, Winfield, Claudell Washington, Pags, Rags, Doug Drabek (you know, the guy who housed you guys for years in Pittsburgh?) It's funny, I have been singing the Mets praises all year. Yes, they have been dominant. They look like they have their act together. Amazingly enough, they did it the same way Mets fans have been bitching about the Yankees for years, with the almighty dollar. Oh screw it, I am just feeding into this. I know there will be a dozen pro-Met, anti-Yank comments after this. It's fine. You guys enjoy the ride while it lasts. If we don't do what we did in 2000 to you this year, we will next year. BTW: David Wright is one of the most talented players I have ever seen. I honestly think he has a great career ahead of him.
Jeez, it took a guy who not only played many years in our house, but also helped coach us to WS wins in the 90's to straighten out your team. ------------ Didn't Joe Torre manage the Mets before he managed the Yanks?
Hmmm, I think that is correct. There would be a difference here though. He actually wins with the Yanks, what did he do with the Mets? Willie won for the Yanks before being lured across the TriBoro.
Yet they keep the human bad luck charm. # 23. Donnie Baseball. Have the Yankees ever won a playoff SERIES with him in uniform? He's loved, though. Hell, I'm a Met fan and I love him.....but only when he is in uniform, cause I know the Yankees are going home. Hi-Yoooooooo!
Willie was on the IR during for the last part of 78 and missed the entire playoffs and world series. Mr. Brian Doyls was our savior that year hitting over .400 in the World Series to lead the Yankees to the championship!
Willie can be a great manager in this league, but so far he has done very little. Manaya was the one that put together this team - Pedro, Beltran, Lo Duca, Delgado, Nady, Valentin, Chavez, Wagner, Sanchez, Bradford, Oliver, El Duque, and Franco are all key components to this team that he has brought in over his 2 years. This team is by far the most talented team in the National League, and I think this is a playoff team even if Art Howe was the manager. All Willie has to do is manage them and keep them on the same page and we're NL Champs easily. Has he done this? Not exactly. Even for a second year manager, he handles a bullpen and bench horrifically and it leaves us scratching our heads a lot. I was actually shocked when he took out El Duque that early yesterday because typical Willie would leave him in the game until he gave up 8 runs and then pull him. Good with the players? We wouldn't be sure. Good at getting us play as a team? Yes. Good at making on field decisions? NO.
And if not for Boston's historic bad luck, Bill Buckner would have sent your Amazin's home in '86. Let's not talk luck here. 26 championships is the most in all sports. It's no fluke.
And that's what really matters. Jeez, did anyone on this board ever play a team sport, or is this board filled with Micheal Kay clones?
oh the "play as a team" crap. what nonsense. the mets have a talented roster and that's why they win games.
I wasn't going to respond to the last post, but I guess I just can't help but be egged on. Why is it that there is always an excuse coming from Shea? There is always a reason why. "The Yankees win because they spend so much money" Okay, so what exactly have the Mets done now? "The game was tied when Buckner blew it." So the Mets would have won that game anyway huh? What happened in 2000? Classy Derek Jeter told you it was the toughest series they had played to that point. Guys, hate to break it to you, he lied. Your heroes list includes names like Carter, Mookie, HoJo. Mine includes names like Bambino, the Mick, Yogi, The Iron Horse, Joltin' Joe. My team has made heroes of guys like Aaron Boone and Bucky Dent. And sure, Giambi almost definitely used steriods, but is anyone naive enough to think Dykstra didn't? Come on. There is a ton of history to the Yankees organization. The Mets don't even compare. You guys can't even make the argument that we have won so many because we have been around longer. We won more in the 90's than you guys have in your history.
So the Yankees overbearing roster automatically makes them winners? I'll bet if you ask a Boston fan if it mattered that "the idiots" were like a family of misfits, it mattered. Team sports require teams to win titles. If you believe anything less, you are just lying to yourself. Even Jordan credited his supporting cast, and if ever there was one idividual who could solely claim credit for a team's success, it was him.
I think that in New Zealand.....the Maori won 27 rowing championships. That's going back a ways of course. 26 is still good though, dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maori
Ever hear of Tom Seaver? He was better then the any pitcher the Yankees ever produced. Curious that you omitted him from your list.