this team had chemistry when Cairo plays 1st,Melky is in center and Damon is DH. But Joe has to play musical positions everyday and screw with it. the same way a SP is having a good game and he gets pulled for no apparent reason. Oh,and 28 million dollars for a 1-2 that can't get his ass out of the 5th. Fuck that
did anyone really think melky and cairo were just gonna hit all through til october??? cmon guys...torre is a complete ass clown< no doubt.....but the problem here is cashman.....the man has zero bench....hes got 4 or 5 dh's on this team....everything he got for sheffield is trash...including a tommy john surgery already...and everything he got for dick head randy johnson is trash.....maybe the red sox knew that damon was a washed up pile of shit and that why they only offered him twice what he was really worth...here we come and offer him 3 times what hes worth so we can really "stick it" to the red sox....the man has done an atrocious job the last 3 or 4 years.......this team sucks ass and is horribly boring to watch......LETS GO JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....oh and team latino down the road is a shitpile of old men too met fans....you guys have already peeked
i'm sorry, but you can't say that the Sheffield trade got us "trash". It got us what appears to be our future closer in Kevin Whelan, and even though Humberto Sanchez is out, he was/is a very promising prospect. He will probably move to the bullpen though. Vizcaino has been coming around lately also (referring to your comment about the randy johnson trade)
Well, thats what happens when you fall so far behind in the standings. The Yankees shot their load, Boston withstood the body punches, and they are 10 1/2 up.
forget boston. its wildcard or nothing, we all know that. hopefully the tigers and indians will beat eachother up and we can slide in
If whelan ends up our closer then i will certainly take my comments back...but its waaaay early for that...as far as sanchez, not only did he have surgery but hes been hurt like 11 times already bro....cashman was gleaming about gettin this guy! and vizcaino has already walked enough people this year for me to never want to see his face again
What a joke...5 runs in 3 games. Bravo guys...Braaaaaaaaavo. Josh Fogg - Jeff Francis - Rodrigo Lopez May as well have been Lackey-Weaver-Escobar
Totally agreed. But everyone thinks it's just me getting out of control with my anger. No one wants to consider that maybe the chemistry created by a huge winning streak was broken by quizzical moves such as Jorge @ first, or the need to use the entire pen every frigging day. Joe Torre is not the ONLY problem, but he IS a problem. And he's the only one you can fix right now. Girardi is available.
Melky is fine at the bottom of the order. He's not a leadoff hitter, period. It's just another example of why Torre is a horrible in-game manager. Cairo has been playing great baseball. Why mess with something that's working? No, he wasn't going to do it all year. However, Andy Phillips could have been given some PH chances late in winning efforts to make his way into the lineup. A smart manager puts his players in a position to excel. Joe does the opposite. As for the trades, as much as I'm going anti-Cashman lately, those were good trades. Where's Randy now? On the other hand, Vizcaino was okay early, then got overworked, then got some rest, combined with tutoring from Mo, and now he's been effective. 20/20 hindsight says the Sheff trade looks bad "right now," but we bolstered the farm, and there was no way to foresee his performance this year. Sheff is a PITA. Screw him. Damon was a mistake, but all of us had that feeling from the start, when like you pointed out, the Sox didn't make a big effort to keep him. They knew damn well he was on his last legs. Hell, I've already shared the story of how his own boat is named "Tired Legs." Cashman's trades have been fairly good. His FA signings are the thing to focus when complaining about him. Oh, and giving Torre a vote of confidence.
The media and Mets fans are the only ones who seem to believe the Yankees fans are focused on winning the division. The Yankees fans are focused squarely on the wild card. We lost the division in May. We just want to win games and get into position to make it to October, which the wild card will do if we pull it together.
Guess they answered our questions about the Rockies pitching staff huh? It does comfort me a bit that they've won 20 of their last 27. They aren't as "lower-tier" as I had thought they were.
I love how you know absolutely nothing about the things you comment on. He gave up 4 runs. This offense should score at least 4 runs against ANY pitching staff. The offense stalled this week, not the pitching. Not to mention, just like my comment above about the division, only Mets fans and the media believe Roger is the "Yankees Savior." For Yankees fans, we kept him out of the Sox' hands, and added some depth to our starting rotation, given that we've had a plethora of injuries. Before you go jumping on our at best, THIRD starter, how about you think about your ace's performance against the Twins? I find it absolutely laughable how you disappeared while the Yankees were winning, especially against the Mets, yet you show up now. Nice job. Perhaps you should go back to worrying about your own team's problems. If Atlanta wasn't playing Boston this week, you'd be in second place right now. Last 10: Yankees: 6-4 Mets: 2-8 You might want to watch that.
Give me a break, that's why we scored 4 runs in 3 games? b/c Cairo didn't play 1st? You guys will make up any excuse to blame Joe. Speak for yourself, I am still thinking division. It's too early to concede, we were 7 out 3 days ago and if we can get back to around 6-7 by the AS break will be in decent position to make a 2nd half run. Damon is hurting, he wants to keep Jeter in the 2 sot b/c that's whre he is best. Who else would you want as the leadoff hitter w. Dmon on the bench? Did you complain last thursday when Melky led off and we scored 7 winning 7-1? Our big bats didn't hit, it had very little to do w/ the batting order. I know Joe is your scaegoat after every loss but lok at it logically please.
junc, you and I will never see eye-to-eye on Torre, we both know that. However, don't tell me I need to look logically at the situation. I'd argue it's you who doesn't look logically at it. No one is saying that Cairo not playing first is the reason we didn't score. We are arguing that ALL of the lineup changes, when taken together as a whole, are what screwed the lineup's ability to hit. It's called chemistry. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. How can you focus on the division at this point? I'm not saying don't have hope, of course I still HOPE the Yankees win the division, but there's no reason to even be thinking about it when we are just .500 right now. Boston has to implode and we have to be fantastic the rest of the way to just catch them. If we're 6 or less out by the All-Star break, then you can get excited, but we're not even close right now. As for Damon, I conceded yesterday that I didn't know he was as "hurt" as he supposedly is. He's dragging us down now, rather than boosting us. However, you're wrong about the Melky/Jeter leadoff situation. I'm not going to try to dig it up, but 10P10 put me in my place about Jeter at the beginning of the season. Jeter's actually got better numbers when leading off than in the 2 hole. So Derek COULD lead off, and be effective. I wouldn't do it, because I like Jeter coming up with the possibility of a runner on, but thinking Melky is going to be at all consistent with doing that is not realistic. Melky can hit, but he has zero patience at the plate. We need someone who is willing to walk in the leadoff spot. Cano and Melky are not that guy. Right now, given that Johnny Pavano is "injured" again, I don't know who that guy is.
Damon was hurting, we saw what he did yesterday, we didn't have a DH. We HAD to make some lineup changes. he kept Jorge in the lineup Tuesday and we scored 1 run, he tried Phillips on Tues and we scored 1 run, he tried damon yesterday and we scored 3. If you think cairo was the difference btw scoring 6-7 and scoring 1-3 then Cairo needs to play everyday and we need to stop the rumors aboutacquiring a 1B. We were 7 games back in the L column 3 days ago. I still look at winning the div, it's too early to concede. We probably won't win it but it's too early to just focus on the WC. i'd like to see those #s from Jeter in the leadoff spot b/c he has had his best seasons when hitting in the 2 hole. He had his worst year of his caeer as a leadoff hittr in 2004 then was better in '05 but the last 2 years moving back to the 2 hole he has been MUCH better. In '04 he hit .292, '05 .307 and he hit .343 last year and is ittig .343 this year. n thdynasty years he was batting 2nd behind raines then Knoblauch and he thrived- he is a better #2 hitter. You ay you wouldn't put jeter in the leadoff spot then besides Melky who would you put up there? cano? that's the only other possibility but cano would be a worse choice b/c he's a hacker. So if you wouldn't leadoff w/ Jeter then why complain about mly when there aren't any other potential LO hitters?
