that one annoys me as well. Every time the Red Sox are on Sunday Night Baseball, Miller loves to say that again and again. I guess he's proud of his pronunciation. And Cappy, I don't believe anyone claimed that Burnett pitches great every time someone other than Posada catches him.
No, but there was enough said about it that it's worth commenting on. This is what Burnett does. He'll be lights out. Or he'll suck completely. It doesn't have much to do with the catcher. Whoever the catcher is unfortunate enough to be behind the plate during one of his shitty games is going to see his cERA blow up.
But I don't see a point here. Should I come and comment every time Burnett pitches well without Posada or pitches badly with Posada? Tonight doesn't show anything much. When he was inconsistent with the Marlins, there was no Posada there. And yet he still had bad games.
yeah that was very strange. What looked like a Boston fan going nuts when the ball was going into the seats.
Theo's still got this under control, he just realized that the way to fix the long term catching need is to be in position to draft Bryce Harper. edit: Just realized the 2010 draft is based on 2009 record. Sarcastic self-consolation fail
Yes, he was inconsistent with the Marlins. And the Jays, too. Thank you for understanding the point. People were talking about Burnett with Posada vs. anyone else as though anything could be discerned from one season's worth of starts. The entire thing was (and is) kind of ridiculous.
So a baseball manager's belief can turn fallacy into truth? The whole thing last year was based off a handful of games. And I'm not even saying that Burnett and Posada are best buds. But people are talking about this as though it was fact. And it's not. Burnett had a few bad games (against Boston) that caused most of the discrepancy. Posada happened to be catching those games. Maybe the problem was that he was facing Boston? Maybe the problem was something else entirely. But people saw Burnett say, "Why?!" and said, "OMG! HE HATES POSADA!" When really, it's likely just variance. My point the entire time was that it has far, far, far more to do with whether the pitcher has his good stuff than whether he gets along with the catcher. And the catcher doesn't do much to determine whether the pitcher has good stuff on a given day. I hate listening to Jon Miller root for the Sox. He jizzes every time something falls in Boston's favor.
First of all, what ire? There's no anger on my part. Secondly, anyone who puts stock in something like that is being irrational whether they write a column for a newspaper, manage a baseball team, or post on an internet message board. And, really, what's worse? Believing something is true because you have looked at the facts and believe they have merit, or just because others believe it? Even if people don't know how to analyze information, I have more respect for people who make the attempt on their own than for people who just parrot whatever others believe. (That's not saying that anyone here is doing that... just commenting on the idea that my "ire" should be directed at Girardi because he's the one who believes this.)
I'm not parroting what Girardi believes. I'm just pointing out that apparently the manager puts stock in it. I don't parrot anyone. And yes, the ire should go towards Girardi because he's the one who created this, really. I certainly had nothing to do with it.
What the hell are you talking about, then? I'm not saying you parrot anyone. (I think I even explicitly said that wasn't talking about anyone here.) All I know is that some people around here were talking about how Burnett does better when Posada isn't catching him, as though something could be taken away from that one season's worth of starts. And that's just poor analysis... and the basis for my initial comment. It puts the blame in the wrong place (it should be on Burnett). From your response to my initial post, I have to believe that you were one of those people who was saying that there was actually something to it, although I honestly don't recall. Whether or not Girardi believes it is irrelevant.
This game is pretty shitty right about now, fuck I really wanted to be in first place after tonight, and it doesnt help that we have Mitre going tomorrow
I wasn't. I just chiming in to say that one start doesn't have much bearing on the argument. We'll have to wait and see how the rest of the season goes.
More than that, even. When talking about a pitcher's stats with two (or more) different catchers, you're going to need more than a season's worth of stats. (Again, that's kind of the point.)
