Yankees @ Red Sox, 4/24-4/26

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  1. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    Look, while I'll say the first one looked like an accident to me, the following two are hard to argue that they weren't intentional.

    Why he would gun for Youkilis, I'm not sure. The only line of reasoning I can come up with (aside from maybe something happening between them in the minors that is not disclosed) is:

    Joba was going to throw at someone.
    It wasn't going to be the widely regarded "nice-guy" Ortiz.
    Manny would probably have kicked his ass.
    Pedroia is too small.

    After that, the next "big name" is either Youkilis or Varitek, and Joba probably didn't want to wait 3 minutes while Varitek ran back to the dug out, put on his equipment, and then charged the mound.

    OR, it could be that the first one was a legit loss of control, which I still firmly believe, and the crazy overreaction made Joba say to himself: "Self, he's a douchebag with a really stupid beard. Why is he bitching, I just put him one pitch closer to first? Screw this, if he wants to whine, let's give him something to cry about."

    After the second reaction, he was probably enjoying it. I love Joba, but he's definitely immature. Honestly, I'd like Girardi to tell him to knock it off. I am all for throwing inside, and "sending messages" but I am firmly against balls above the shoulder. We're not talking about pain, we're talking about guys' lives.
     
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  3. Cappy

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    First of all, it's not true that he's never come close to anyone else.

    Secondly, I'm not saying he wasn't trying to come inside or elevate. I think he was trying to take back the inside part of the plate and/or trying to get Youkilis to swing at a high strike. Youkilis dives into the ball more than Jeter ever did. I don't think he was going for his head, though, and I don't even think he was trying to hit him. Move him back? Yes. Bean him? No.

    If you look at the situations when Youkilis was up, there's no way Joba wants to put someone on base. It makes far more sense that (most of) those pitches got away from him a bit and wound up higher/tighter than he wanted than to think that Joba wants to kill Youkilis. Unless you just think Joba's a sociopath.

    The coincidence/exaggeration part of it is how close the pitches actually came with the biggest crybaby in the game at the plate. Three of the four were high, and only one of those was more than an inch off the plate. The fourth was behind his legs. That one I think wasn't a coincidence. But nobody would be talking about a "war" ( :rolleyes: ) if it weren't for the first two pitches. That is the unfortunate coincidence.
     
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    I guess John Sterling is right when he says "you just can't figure out baseball."
     
  5. Cappy

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    By the way, for anyone else in the Boston area, I recommend going to Fleming's Prime Steakhouse for dinner Saturday night. Jeter, Posada, and a few other guys almost always grab dinner there following Saturday afternoon games.

    If there's only a semi-private room available, they'll say hello and sign autographs for everyone before sitting down (so they'll be left alone for dinner)... so ask for a table in one of the side rooms.
     
  6. Sundayjack

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    Meh. Someone grab them by the shirt collar and lead them two blocks down to Abe & Louie's.
     
  7. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Go Yanks! Clam chowder ain't on the menu tonight.

    devil what NFL team do you pledge allegiance to then? I had no idea you weren't with the NYJ.
     
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  8. Cappy

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    What, because they're Yankees they deserve lower quality food and service?
     
  9. IATA

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    Cowboys.


    ye-haw.
     
  10. Scikotic

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    Jesus H. Christ. I have to watch the game on NESN, and listen to these damn Boston homers. What the fuck is Fenway Pock?
     
  11. Scikotic

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    Drew hardly missed that pitch. Joba lucked out.
     
  12. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    'atta boy Ransom
     
  13. Scikotic

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    'atta boy Jeter!
     
  14. Jake

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    How much longer you think Lester's got? 100+ pitches after 5, one more inning tops.... My opponent in fantasy has Lester starting bahahaha.

    Was hoping Posada and Swish would rip him apart as per they are on my squad by JoPo really didn't bring much to the table today.
     
  15. Jake

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    UGH. Joba hasn't looked good either.
     
  16. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    Joba doing a nice job keeping the ball down with men on base, getting ground balls and double play balls
     
  17. plasticsloth

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    alright jeter! nice lead-off double!
     
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    1st and 3rd nobody out let's go tex!
     
  19. TommyGreen

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    Bah. A rare Mariano blown save.
     
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    That is so lame.
     

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