Yankees on Verge of Acquring Cliff Lee (Rangers trade complete)

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  1. kinghenry89

    kinghenry89 New Member

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    Who said anything about having the World Series wrapped up?

    But the notion that the Yankees are "hanging on by their fingernails" is ridiculous. Throughout the first half of the season they haven't even clicked on all cylinders yet, but they still find themselves with the best record in baseball. That isn't at all encouraging to you?

    Let me put it this way: what team in baseball is set up better for a deep playoff run?
     
  2. kinghenry89

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    I guess I forgot about Texas. Still, my heart was in the right place.
     
  3. GQMartin

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    Yankees on Verge of Acquring Cliff Lee

    Rightly so. They don't have money. Seattle is picking up the remaining $$ owed to Lee.
     
  4. IATA

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    #Yankees livid with #Mariners. Believed they had deal, then M's took it to #Rangers saying put Smoak in and Lee is yours... #MLB
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  5. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Enjoy your coal.
     
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    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    How bad is it hurting?


    Shall I call the amberlamps?
     
  7. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Again (and I do realize I'm responding to the same post as I did earlier), this is not a Mets issue. I did not bring up the Mets. As usual, a Yankees fan brought up the Mets.
    That said, I'll please you by mentioning the Mets. I most certainly would have been ecstatic if the Mets had acquired Lee. You see, the Mets are not already a powerhouse.
    The Yankees do not need Lee. They proved as much last year. It would have been overkill if they got him. The only intrigue as far as the postseason is concerned would be which three teams would the Yanks defeat on the way to their 28th title.

    Lee-less, the Yankees are still the favorites to win the 2010 Fall Classic. They then can get Lee in the autumn. Also, they can keep the second coming of Johnny Bench.
     
  8. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    No one is saying the WS is 'wrapped up'. It's just that there's no need to hit the panic button like you're doing.... You're such a darksider it's not even funny. What exactly was your reaction to the NYY winning it all last season? We're you even happy?
     
  9. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    C'mon man, you are being ridiculous again. Alio told us it is about bravery. He wrote that all the other teams are pussies, that they are too afraid to do what the Yankees do. Just think about it for 10 seconds and you'll understand. It would have taken major, major guts to trade a prospect who most Yankees fans wouln't know if the guy fell on 'em for arguably the best pitcher in Major League Baseball.
     
  10. kinghenry89

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    This is a stupid, stupid argument right out of Mike Francessa's stupid, stupid playbook. There's no such thing as "overkill" when it comes to building your pitching staff.

    Brian Cashman's job is to put together a World Series winning team. He had a chance to add the best pitcher in baseball at an acceptable cost, so he went for it. As he should have. Do you think that if the Rangers take the Yankees out in the playoffs, the Yankees ownership and fans will say "that's OK, the Yankees had a good pitching staff and this way the playoffs will be more intriguing"?
     
  11. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    It was a no-brainer for the yanks to make the proposed trade. I have no problem with what the yanks would have done. They would not have done anything wrong.
    My issue is that it would have been awful for the competitive balance the rest of this season. The '10 yanks with Lee would have been more dominant than the '98 yanks and '86 Mets. Anybody who does not agree is delusional.

    By the way, you want stupid arguments? Let's go look at some the James thread. I saw a lot of bitchin' from Yankees fans in that thread. You can't have it both ways, fellas.
     
  12. kinghenry89

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    My mistake. I thought you were parroting Francessa's ridiculous argument (he actually believed that Cashman should've backed off in the name of competitive balance.)

    I haven't heard a lot of people complain about Lebron leaving Cleveland for a better situation. It's the way that Lebron left that bothers most. I don't really see how the Yankees fit into that.
     
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    Cakes makes a compelling argument.
     
  14. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    I have heard and read complaints about the Heat being a superteam and that James will hurt his legacy even if he wins titles in Miami. I don't want to name names (mainly because I'd have to go back into that thread and look for the guilty parties), but I have seen that kind of stuff at TGG and I've seen it on a National Baskeball Association-specific message board.
    It is funny to see Knicks fans who are also Yankees fans complaining about the Miami Heat soon being a juggernaut.
     
  15. kinghenry89

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    Again, I don't think many Yankees fans are that upset about Lebron leaving Cleveland to chase rings in Miami.

    I think the problem is more about making the decision from day 1, but creating a gigantic media circus to serve his own ego, culminating with Lebron taking a huge dump on the city of Cleveland on live television in an unprecedented one hour "decision" special.
     
  16. Cakes

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    That's my prob with him and I agree with you that that is what most people are complaining about, too. However, there have been complaints from New York fans about Miami being a superteam. There was more than one fellow here at TGG last night who complained about how a superteam in Miami was bad for the NBA.
     
  17. kinghenry89

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    I don't personally feel that way, but I'll speculate as to why some people do.

    Basketball is a sport where the play of an individual can be more important than the play of a team. Lebron wants to call himself the "King," and he wants to act like he's Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant. But he's not willing to be "the guy." I think that the fact that a baseball team needs more than two great players to win a title is where your analogy suffers.

    Plus, it's worth pointing out that all 3 players are taking less than the max to play for the Miami "super team." So there's another huge difference from the Yankees.
     
  18. Cakes

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    Joe Willie White Shoes was at least one poster who complained that the NBA is now a two-team sport and that the league sucks in large part because of that. I don't think he was the only guy in the NBA free agent thread to make those sorts of comments.
    I actually thought only two teams could win the NBA title prior to the 2009-10 season. I think four could win the NBA title next season. Therefore, I actually think the league got better at least for next season as far as serious title contending is concerned, but that might just be me.
    Anyway, I am thoroughly enjoying this baseball season. I am a huge fan of good pitching and that's a big reason why I am enjoying this season. Best season since 1994 in my opinion and we're going to actually get a conclusion to this one!
     
  19. Cappy

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    Every GM tries to make his team better. That's, like, you know, their job.

    But seriously, I'd like you to answer the previous question. What team is in better shape than the Yankees? You're overreacting like this because the Yanks only have the best record in baseball by two games? The horror.

    Excuse me if I find your panicked tone either disingenuous or remarkably stupid.
     
  20. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    I wanted Lee. Of course. But now that we didnt get him and the excitement is gone, I kind of fall in line with Fatcessa. Not that Cashman shouldnt have gone after Lee of course, thats retarded. But I agree that the season remains fun this way.

    My buddy texted me in horror before saying " we're dead, we cant beat Texas". We cant beat Texas? Get the fuck outta here. Can they beat us? Sure they can. But if we're gonna win a fuckin world series again this year, shouldnt we have to beat a good fuckin team?
     

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