Yankees on Verge of Acquring Cliff Lee (Rangers trade complete)

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  1. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Alio wants Lee so badly it hurts.
    Alio also enjoys watching lions attack already lame wildebeasts.
     
  2. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    I think if Montero was that untouchable that Yankees wouldn't try to use him as trade bait every chance they get.

    His poor defense behind the plate is probably turning them off because a couple years down the road if he makes the show they would have to use him as a DH if his catching skills don't come around...and what the Yankees don't need is another DH..
     
  3. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Yes, because the Yanks were not sick enough already.
     
  4. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    I didn't see this post before my last post, but I agree with you on all points here.

    But if the Yankees are the only ones with such an offer (the Rays or Minnesota don't bite), Lee will be walking across the field to the other dugout tonight.
     
  5. IATA

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    Where do the Skanks go at catcher once Pusada retires? He can't be too far away, and trading Montero must drastically change plans.

    Theres alot of options available in trade, but what exactly can the Yankees give up to get them? I don't know their system at all...
     
  6. Cakes

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    corey hart to be 5th outfielder. Git 'er done, cashman.
     
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  8. AlioTheFool

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    Yeah and?

    Don't act like the Mets couldn't do it, or that you wouldn't be ecstatic if they did. The fact is, the Yankees do what every other team wants to do, but is too pussy to actually try.

    What people should keep in mind is that this is a total upside deal for the Yankees.

    1) They give up a prospect who'll never have a spot on the team.
    2) They get one of the best pitchers in baseball (I don't know if he's the best)
    3) They don't give up a first round pick when they sign him in November.
    4) He makes AJ Burnett the weakest link in the rotation.
    5) And the primary reason for this deal:

    He stays out of the hands of the Red Sox, Rays, Twins, and Rangers. All 4 of those teams have the potential to face us in October. Lee has the ability to take us right out of a 5-game series. Put him with Price in Tampa, and we may as well pack our bags in September.

    This isn't necessarily overkill for the Yankees. This is strategic just as much as dominating.
     
  9. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    The Yankees have at least Romine and Sanchez in the system. They also have Posada for at least another year or two, and Cervelli has proven he is very good defensively, and can hit competently in the bottom of the Yankees lineup.

    The Yankees are easily outfitted to trade Montero.
     
  10. Dirty6Sanchez

    Dirty6Sanchez Well-Known Member

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    All I have to say is...CC,Pettite,Lee,Hughes,Burnett :eek:hmy:

    GET IT DONE CASH-MAN!
     
  11. ToonWalker

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    All reports indicate that the Yankees weren't sold on Montero as a catcher anyway, so I don't think the future catcher plans will be altered too drastically.
     
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    Holy shit, Lee would be so awesome, this is why Brian Cashman is awesome, the Werth deal seems kind of stupid, Gardner is doing fine I'm not really sure with why we would do this. Defensive upgrade? maybe but Swisher can handle his business in right. Maybe we do like a reverse Yankee trade where we trade away a veteran to acquire some prospects. Doubt it, but still CLIF FUCKING LEE awesome
     
  13. JetBlue

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    the Yankees trade away prospects for players because they don't have to value prospects like other teams do -- they can afford an amount of free agents and high priced players that most other teams can't. I'm not sure how not being as wealthy as the Yankees equates being to being pussies, which you are claiming, they operate under different economic factors.

    this isn't a condemnation of the Yankees, it doesn't make sense for them to hold onto "potential" players at the expense of proven stars. but other teams can't do that, so it is asinine to attempt to criticize those teams for that.
     
  14. Cappy

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    I mentioned this earlier. The move would almost certainly be to put Swisher as the full time DH. Werth is a better fielder in RF.
     
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    It would probably result in Granderson being benched against lefties a lot more frequently.

    I don't believe that the Phillies would swap Werth for Javy though, Ruben Amaro isn't that dumb (though he's close.) If the Yankees do finish this deal and grab Lee, expect the Sox to panic and make a big push for Werth, driving his price up.
     
  16. Cakes

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    Excuse me, have I mentioned the Mets?
     
  17. GQMartin

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    Then they bench Gardner (or Granderson, Gardner to CF) when Teixeira, ARod or Posada need a DH day. Then Swisher plays left on those days; why disrupt the feng shuey?
     
  18. Cappy

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    No. Swisher does not play LF. God help us all.
     
  19. GQMartin

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    IDK then...

    seems like a log jam to me...
     
  20. AlioTheFool

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    If you argue that the Diamondbacks or Marlins can't, then okay, I'll give you that. If you argue that the Mets, Red Sox, Twins, or Angels can't, I'll tell you to take a hike.

    Sure, at least half the league can't do what the Yankees do, but at least a quarter flat out chooses not to. Maybe no one can necessarily do it to the same degree as the Yankees, but no one even tries. Even the Red Sox don't try as hard as the Yankees to be ridiculous with the spending.

    I feel no shame or pity being a Yankees fan.

    It doesn't matter what team you're talking about. You're just whining, and I don't care. I'm just waiting to unwrap my new toy. Christmas in July!
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    As for Werth, it looks like that might not work out, since it appears Javy isn't enough for the Phillies, who would rather trade Ibanez for a pitcher. Umm, thanks but uh, no thanks.

    Javy to the pen! Overload like crazy!
     

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