Yankees @ Detroit 5/10 - 5/13

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  1. TommyGreen

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    Joba throwing in the high-90s again!!!
     
  2. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Who is number 62, this Chamberlain kid?
     
  3. talisaynon

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    It's not unheard of for pitchers to get injured then get their velo back.

    Hopefully this lasts...then he can go back to starting next year...if then oh hohoho
     
  4. jonnyd

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    I think the gun was wrong
     
  5. Cappy

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    I hope it lasts, too. Gun was probably juiced by 1-2 mph though. It had Zumaya repeatedly hitting 102 last night.
     
  6. SixFeetDeep

    SixFeetDeep Red Hot Robbie Cano

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    and valverde was hitting 97-98.
     
  7. AlioTheFool

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    I don't care what the gun said, Joba looked good last night. That's all I care about.

    Mitre pitched pretty good too. The problem, as I said, was that we had to rely too much on the pen. Can't wait for Vagy's performance tonight! I hope everyone in the pen is ready to contribute.

    Now, can we please package Winn and Thames and send them off to Japan or something? I'll take anything back in return. Hell, I'll take nothing back in return! Call up Miranda to DH and bring up an outfielder already. I don't care who it is.

    Anyway, last night reminded me of just what we gave up for Granderson. Sure, AJax wasn't great last night, but he still leads the league in average. Coke's pitching pretty damn well. And the forgotten man in the trade? Ian Kennedy. He's 2-2, with a 3.48 ERA in 7 games (44 innings) 35 Ks against 7 walks. He's giving up less than a hit per inning.

    Just imagine Jackson in center with Gardner in left. Coke in the pen rather than Logan or Marte. And Kennedy rather than a vagina in the rotation.

    And that's not even considering the situation with Nick Johnson. Nice job Brian. As I said, it's really easy to look like a genius when you can afford to bring in Sabathia, Burnett, and Teixeira in the same winter. It's those seasons where you can't that define you.
     
  8. Cappy

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    So he's being defined by a season where the Yanks are on pace to win 109-110 games? Um... I think he's okay with that.



    ETA: And Miranda is likely being called up to replace Russo, so you'll get one of your wishes.

    As for Kennedy's success, don't discount the fact that he's pitching in the NL West this year. I always liked Kennedy, but there's a big difference between the divisions.
     
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  9. GQMartin

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    No, they were fastballs. His ball naturally does that movement.
     
  10. Scikotic

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    Sinker...Sinking fastball. Not much of a difference....
     
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    Jeez, man, take your medication already. How would you like it if the posts in which you sound like a cheap imitation of Don will define you?
     
  12. SixFeetDeep

    SixFeetDeep Red Hot Robbie Cano

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    I agree with you about winn's hitting, but he was signed to be a 4th outfielder and play defense.

    The criticism for Thames is unwarranted. He was supposed to just bat against lefties and never see the field. Hes hitting .378 with an .455 OBP. So, please, bitch about his awful defense (shouldn't be out there in the first place), but not his hitting.

    The austin jackson trade is easy to second guess, but hes playing way out of his head with a ridiculous BAIBP. His BA will come down, but his defense and baserunning are legit. I was sad to see him traded, he was a favorite prospect of mine, but we got a better player back that actually has legit power with a stroke designed for Yankee stadium. Something AJax may possibly never develop. Granderson had a fluke injury, and was struggling at the plate, but was a huge component of our lineup.

    BTW, if anyone wants to second-guess a trade, how about Albaladejo for Tyler Clippard? :smile:
     
  13. SixFeetDeep

    SixFeetDeep Red Hot Robbie Cano

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    On Miranda:

    Kills righties, and could form a great DH platoon with Thames hitting lefties. Already has 5HR this year at AAA.

    I wish we had someone legit we could call up to play LF...
     
  14. Cappy

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    Yeah, I got no problem with Thames/Miranda platooning in the DH slot for now. They have the same skill set, just from opposite sides of the plate; as good as they both are at crushing opposite-handed pitchers, they're just flail and fail against same-handed pitchers.

    But please keep Thames out of the field. Please.
     
  15. AlioTheFool

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    Relax dude. I'm not nearly as angry as you seem to think I am. I don't like Nick Johnson, and I think Cashman made some really poor moves this past winter, but overall, the Yankees have been in the playoffs almost every year for a decade and a half. I haven't forgotten that. :wink:

    Two things:

    1) Fair enough on Thames. Though given that he was meant as the backup to a player I didn't want here in the first place, it's hard for me to give him leeway. As for Winn, if it weren't for Thames, I wouldn't bitch about Winn. As a 4th outfielder, even having to play extended time, he's not the worst option. He does mess up the lineup though. Since his bat is so bad, he hits ninth. Which puts an out behind Gardner, rather than Jeter's bat.

    2) I was vehemently opposed to the Granderson trade from day 1. I felt it was a bad idea to trade a similar player, plus additional players, both of whom I felt were better than people gave them credit for. Now all three of those players are paying dividends. That's not second-guessing. That's affirmation.

    Don't get me wrong, I like Granderson. I just felt then, and do now, that we gave up far too much for him. As an analogy, if I needed a quarter, and gave you a dollar, but you gave me back 2 quarters, a dime, and a nickel, I'd have the quarter that I need right now, but I'd have less than I started with.

    I just saw that Miranda got the call, which is what prompted me to come post. Consider me quite happy right now. I'll take Winn in left for a few weeks while Thames and Miranda platoon DH. Hopefully Nick Johnson just gets released. I still wonder if there's really no one in the minors who can play left field and hit any better than Winn. I'll take what I can get though.
     
  16. The Dark Knight

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    Alio, I don't like Nick Johnson either, but how dumb was it for Girardi to keep playing him in the 2 hole? Terrible.
     
  17. GQMartin

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    same effect I get it...

    ...one is passive though
     
  18. Cappy

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    That's not affirmation. That's overreacting after one month.

    A better analogy than yours would be like selling a risky stock for cash to purchase a less risky stock. These are stocks you planned on holding for a few years. One month later, the stocks you sold have gone up in value, and the more conservative stock you bought has gone down.

    Only the foolish investor looks at those short term results and says, "Dear God! What a horrible trade I made."
     
  19. AlioTheFool

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    The thing is, where else could Girardi put him? His thing is the on-base %. He can't seem to make contact with the ball. If you put him after Posada or Swisher, he becomes an out, since pitchers can go after him. Who provides more protection, Mark Teixeira (even a slumping one) or Brett Gardner (even a performing one?)

    I never wanted Johnson here in the first place. And surely not as our full-time DH. That's where my resentment starts from. It just continues on with the Ks looking, the batting average in the hundreds, the inability to stay healthy, the running like his underwear is loaded with 8 pounds of his own feces...
     
  20. GQMartin

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    Nick Fisher is a bust.
     

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