Dude you cant get over the redding can you. Im talking about building that ginosterous park when your staff sucked on paper regardless of Redding. Like Ollie Perez is such an upgrade?
so its what...29-1 in the last 3 games played yanks-Mets. I dont think any AAA team would lose by that combined tital against the Yankees
To look at it another way, in this series, Brett Gardner has more hits than the entire Mets team. And he went 0-5 today.
We've been strong at home, at least before these injuries started multiplying like mad so I don't get what you want to point out. As for the team pitching building towards the park well it has, we didn't exactly build the park for one player anyway, baseball has always been built around pitching
I have avoided this like the plague but I can't take it anymore.... fuck the Mets. The question isn't if they are going to win a game in this series but it has now become if they are going to score any runs... Now I see all the Yankee fans piling on the pathetic group of scrubs the Mets have wheeled in from the depths of the unknown as well as retirement. I'm sure it's just frustration because your biggest rival has now made a joke of that rivalry by owning you. Now the joke that the Mets have become falls on the shoulders of Omar... I said all offseason they should have done more to upgrade the lineup. I called for Raul Ibanez or Adam Dunn and instead they give us Alex Cora. Nobody could have forseen Reyes being on the shelf for what seems like half a seson. Obviously the Yankees are much better than this Mets tam but having Reyes and Delgado make the Mets a much better team than what they have shown in June.
I know, they just aren't spending enough money. how much more do the Mets have to spend to be a good second place team as opposed to a donkey pussy team? that's something the Yanks should know very well. hell, how much more money do they have to spend to be an all-world non-playoff team as opposed to the choking non-playoff team they are? Yanks are pretty familiar with that role as well.
Before the injuries the rotation was adequate and the bullpen was strong, the problem now is that there is too much pressure on Pelfrey and it showed, Santana has gone on his regular 1st half struggle and Redding blows you can only do so much with Livan and ironically Nieve seems like lightning in a bottle. Was it obscene strong no, but it was alright along with the bullpen, but with the injuries our bullpen got overused, JJ went down and it has been a downward spiral ever since.
Eh. Putz wasn't doing so hot before he went down (to say the least), so it's hard to point to him and say he's left a void in the pen. But Pelfrey, Maine, Perez and Livan behind Santana isn't exactly showcasing the strong belief in that strategy of "being built around pitching." Seems more like: Santana > ??? > PROFIT!!!
Sure he wasn't doing so hot but that was while he was pitching through injury, and our bullpen stats was was the best in the majors before he got hurt, Perez was never ready after the WBC fiasco much like Wang for the Yanks. And Maine has been so-so, but the plan was to build an ok rotation with a dominant bullpen, the problem is that overuse and injury crippled the bullpen and the ok rotation while still doing ok isn't enough by itself to cover for the rest.
You'll forgive me if I still don't see how the initial setup was anything more than a half-assed attempt at the idea that "baseball is built around pitching."
You think basically adding 2 closers and blowing up the previous bullpen is half-assed? That was the only thing he did do was try to build a strong bullpen. It was part of the formula that he did in 2006
The problem is he never improved on a lineup that was less than impressive against a Cardinals team they shuold have eliminated in 5.
If your goal is to build a team with better pitching, yes. Don't get me wrong, adding K-Rod and Putz were decent enough moves... but the best bullpen in the world isn't going to have much effect given the Mets' less than impressive rotation which is basically a modern day version of, "Spahn and Sain, then pray for rain." Who were you comfortable with going into this year, outside of Santana?
Whoops! :smile: Seriously, though... even if you didn't expect him to be an absolute disgrace, I would hope he's not someone you were putting much confidence in. Best I could tell going into this season, the Mets had one decent starter, and pretty much had to cross their fingers with the rest. I said it during the offseason, but making a play for Burnett or Lowe or Garland would have helped a hell of a lot more than making the trade for Putz.
I think you're being a bit unfair to Pelfrey. I agree with you on some level, but it can't be denied that injuries wrecked us. A relatively healthy Mets team is leading the NL East by a half dozen games at least. By the way, I was there tonight...That fucking sucked.
Perhaps, although I'm not sure that I would have been counting on a repeat of last year's performance, given his peripherals. Regardless, I don't think I would've have categorized Omar's strategy as one that emphasized strength in pitching. While I'm not sure I agree with your conclusions, I agree that the Mets have caught a serious injury bug that has hurt their chances.
