Yankees and A-Rod still talking

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  1. Don

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    Well, we needed a third baseman. We needed to replace his bat. The only one who came close was Cabrerra and he would have cost half our young players so Arod is a bargain.

    Besides, there are absolutely no free agent starters even worth signing so if you can't get pitching you do the second best thing and get hitting. Now because we still have those young players we can get Santana if the Twins make him available.
     
  2. Baron Samedi

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    No, I'm comparing 39 post season games. His stats suck in 147 post-season AB's.

    If you want to cherry pick stats, how about this...

    The last 3 years, A-Rod has 13 post season games, 44 AB's, 7 hits, BA .159, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 16 K's.

    That's your clutch hitter for ya, in the prime of his career, in the biggest games of the year.
     
  3. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    So the Yankees fans have now reverted to just enjoying their team making it to the playoffs? It must be sad to be a Yankees fan these days.
     
  4. Don

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    You do have a way with twisting things. I'm sure the Boston fans were thrilled to be watching golf during the playoffs in 2000, '01, '02 and '06 too.
     
  5. Murrell2878

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    How many Championships did the "Best team in baseball" win during those years?? hmm.. just 1.

    Not really sure how I'm twisting things. Yankees are judges by winning Championships not just making the playoffs. You seem to be a little out of step with Yankee thinking or maybe it's just that Yankee thinking is changing before our eyes.
     
  6. Don

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    His stats suck huh?

    21 runs
    41 hits
    7 hrs
    17 rbis
    17 walks

    thats what he has in those 147 abs. You are talking about the post season here where hitters aren't suppose to hit.
     
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  7. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Yeah, so we didn't win. We would have liked to, of course. It just seems that Boston fans are far more worried about us then we are of you. Your 2 WSs in 90 years really doesn't impress anybody but you.
     
  8. Murrell2878

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    Then you're not the best team of the decade.

    What's to worry about? Seriously? The Yankees throw money around to old washed up over the hill guys year after year. What has it done for you?
     
  9. rillo

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    I've seen Jeter come in the clutch....not in the regular season...in the Playoffs so he gets a pass for this year...in my eyes.

    Baron just posted this stat about A-rod
    The last 3 years, A-Rod has 13 post season games, 44 AB's, 7 hits, BA .159, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 16 K's.


    He can break all the records he wants...but until he does something in the postseason like have a significant hit he'll never be worth that contract.
     
  10. Don

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    I said we were the best team of the last decade (10 years) and we are. I'll even go farther then that. We are the best team of the last 13 years. We went to the playoffs 13 years in a row, played in 6 WSs and won 4 of them. Show me any team better or even close.
     
  11. Baron Samedi

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    Those stats are nothing special...pretty run of the mill stuff.

    His stats the last 3 years did nothing but speed along the Yankee's exit from the playoffs.

    Hey, he's your guy!:up: If you're happy with him, that's great. I am happy to not have him. This is a happy ending all around.
     
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    It looks like it has....just making the playoffs with the highest payroll is unacceptable, but as long as we have 'The Best Player in Baseball' who cares....
     
  13. AlioTheFool

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    He HAS.

    Why is that so hard to understand?

    Because you want to listen to people who cherry-pick, that's why.

    ARod has hit in the postseason. He went cold ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE.

    When is this going to sink in?

    The ENTIRE TEAM, not just Alex Rodriguez, has been dismal on both sides of the ball for the past 3 years. Prior to that, Alex DID HIT THE BALL.

    You WANT to dislike him, and that's wholesale ridiculous. I understand Boston fans trying to pull this crap, since in 18 days we've gone from an afterthought to an "OH SHIT, THEY'RE BACK". Hearing this from a Yankees fan is absolutely ludicrous.

    Plus, if you read the Pepsi clutch thing like you were asked to, you'd see that ARod single-handedly put the Yankees IN the playoffs in 2007.

    Then you may also want to remember that Alex hit in the Cleveland series. Problem is, when Wang is posting an ERA of 19+, and no one else wants to get on base, it's hard for a single player to dig a team out of the hole.

    You're blinded by your desire to hate ARod.
     
  14. Murrell2878

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    And you can have all of that.

    The Sox are the best team in 2007 and that's all that really matters. Thanks for the debate. You really opened my eyes
     
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    It sure does seems that way. However it's "the best player in baseball during the regular season' :grin:

    Anyway, I wish your team the best of luck and for many more memorable moments in the Sox/Yanks rivalry
     
  16. AlioTheFool

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    This much I agree with.

    What really matters in the end is who gets to put the ring on in April.
     
  17. Don

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    Always nice to see a Boston fan change the debate to suit their purpose. I'll agree you won the WS in '07 and with it the title of best team.
     
  18. Baron Samedi

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    True, but the whole team is not considered "the greatest player in baseball". This, inevitably, leads to the question "is he the greatest player in baseball, even if he fails in theplayoffs?" Is it the "greatest player"'s responsibility to hit even when the team is slumping?

    If it were not for A-Rod's crown, people wouldn't throw stones so much.

    The fact of the matter is, if I were picking a playoff team from scratch, A-Rod may very well not be on that team...as a starter, anyway.
     
  19. Don

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    That's the problem with baseball. You can still be considered the best player in the game while failing 2 out of every 3 times you come to bat. Bunch a few of those failures together in 3 playoff series and all this nonsense talk fills the airwaves forever.
     
  20. AlioTheFool

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    He hit this year. Absolutely no one else did, unless you count Damon's first at-bat heroics.

    No one man can carry a team through October. Let's be realistic.

    His numbers over the past 3 years are diminished because 2005, and 2006 were poor. 2007 he went 4/15 (.267: low, but not dismal), 1 HR, 1 RBI, 2 R, 2 BB.

    For those who truly believe ARod doesn't hit in the postseason, in 2004 he was 16/50 (.320 AVG), 3 HR, 8 RBI, 11 R, 5 2B, 6 BB, OBP: .414, SLG: .600.

    Amazing. His numbers before the collapse were actually better than his career numbers. :eek:hmy:

    But he doesn't hit in October. :rolleyes:
     

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