Why not start Walls for the time being (at CB2), and let the players we draft compete and get better in the mean-time? It's no different then starting Antonio Allen at SS last year. I don't think Walls is that bad, he's gotten beat granted but he's made plays on the ball. I just think if we address other positions on the field like ILB and FS, we can cover up the youth and inexperience at CB. Especially if we can rush the passer.
I don't have confidence starting Walls & Milliner for 16 weeks and a Safety like Ed Reynolds with Walls starting, isn't going to improve the secondary from whats already on the roster. CB #2 is the most glarring need, I hope it's addressed with a trade, if not we need to get one of the top CBs in this draft. CBs are usually on an island in Rex's defense, adding a LB isn't going to help much. I think your premise is flawed and believe most would disagree with you.
That maybe the case yes. A complete youth movement in the secondary might not be a good idea, but it's happening now wherever we like it or not. Maybe we keep Ed Reed here and he helps the transition for some players. I maybe crazy, but just think there's a change in regards to Rex's defense and how he operates it going forward. Just regarding the bold part, didn't Millner play better his rookie year in a zone defense as opposed to man-to-man? Wouldn't this mean we aren't really just a man-to-man defense any-longer and going forward Rex may not rely on man to man as much? I am thinking about Millner played well those last couple games and how that will affect the Jets defense going forward. If they want to go off a player's strengths, man to man defense for Millner might not be the best way of going about things. 49ers had an excellent pass-rush with 2 good ILBs that can go side-line to side-line. They didn't have shutdown CBs, they had physical safeties though. Not looking to start an argument on this, it's merely a discussion based on what we saw last season.
WW85. I like it, nicely done. However, if either Barr or Mack (very unlikely) or Gilbert and or Dennard are there at 18th the Jets will pull the plug on a defensive player and I would be ok with that. I definitely like Cook over Ebron at the 18th pick.
Mack might be a top 5 player, since some believe the QBs might fall some. Barr might fall, but doubtful to #18. I'd draft Ebron over Cooks in a heartbeat. I have no issue going defense, especially if Gilbert was available, but highly unlikely. If Dennard is available it will be interesting what Idzik decides. The WR depth is incredible and going Dennard is a possibility. The BPA approach with a need common sense approach is the way to go in rd 1. So I'd take the BPA available at WR, CB, TE or S. Baltimore is going to dictate who the Jets draft, they could use a WR and another S (drafted one last year in rd 1). I've heard Ozzie is real high on Ha Ha Clinton-Dix. Ozzie will take the BPA that
I'm not taking it personally and you shouldn't either. We can agree to disagree, I try not to be rude, but I have strong convictions about how to approach the draft and don't expect everyone to agree with me. I still think Rex want s to use man coverage, but he has clearly made adjustments without Revis. I think Milliner is a better zone coverage player and maybe he wasn't the best fit in what Rex wanted to do. Rex will adjust to his personnel, like drafting Richardson and moving Coples, a positive in his coaching style. Milliner has improved, but I see some fundamental problems in his game. Milliner has to learn to look back for the ball, a major flaw in his game. Lacks ideal footwork and makes him late on the play. I think he will overcome some issues with proper coaching, so he's not a lost cause. I also see a lot of positves, Milliner is an excellent tackler, and reacts to the run well. Milliner was a rookie, so I'm being hard on him, he will continue to improve.
I can't post one right now since I'm at work but I'll try and do one whenever I get a chance, at least before the draft. My biggest issue is trying to figure out who will even be available at our spot. I typically look at a lot of other mock drafts and do some of those simulator ones to get an idea but even then it's basically a complete guessing game.
Of course I would be very excited with the Cooks pick. More than any other player in the draft (outside of Bridgewater, Mack or Barr), he's the guy I want to see the Jets draft. Hands, route running, toughness, versatility, YAC, speed, quickness, everything but size. I'll admit to not knowing much about Roberson. Aside from Gilbert, Jean-Baptiste and Cockrell, really haven't paid too much attention to CBs in this draft. Guess I need to look at some video. Bitonio would be a great addition to the OL. His ability to play both OT and OG would be huge for depth and he could be a starter at OG. I don't know that much about Skov either. I always thought he was too light in the pants for the Jets' D, but remember reading early on that he is very highly rated and a good player. It would be great to add a faster ILB to groom to replace Harris, so I like it. I'm not a fan of Bryant I'll have to admit. I've seen Clemson play a number of times and he never stood out to me. I've read about his size and measurables, but also read that most scouts (at least the ones I've read) don't like him and think him a marginal prospect. He's another I'll have to go view some video on and see what my eyes tell me. I'd be very happy with Tripp, and I know the Jets have spoken with him. I'm not sure the Jets would take a 3rd WR. If they've added DJax, it would be a luxury pick and there'd be no room for him on the roster. He'd be a PS player, where someone else would probably steal him. He's a solid possession WR but not one I could get excited about. He doesn't really seem like a fit for the WCO. I'd rather this pick be used elsewhere. Duncan and Ladler would be excellent value picks at positions of need and I'd be very happy with them. I know nothing at all about Perkins. Renner could develop into a quality backup, so have no problems with taking him, and would like adding a punter. I know you put a lot of thought and time into this, and matched bpa with need. I'd be very happy with this draft, I think even if I still wound up not liking Bryant
No, not taking it personally at all - you've been doing this for a while man, it's good to hear opinions from experienced people. Millner's last 4 weeks were pretty good can't lie, but I really thought this guy was going the wrong direction earlier in the season. We'll see how well he does going forward but to be the 9th pick in the draft, you have to eventually be that #1 CB. This Shayne Skov guy sounds more intriguing by the minute though, we desperately need an ILB, I think this guy can play ST this season, get some reps and eventually take over Harris's spot the next season. We have yet to determine if DeMario Davis is a long-term starter as well so competition is good here. Not too sure about his ability to cover though, we need a 3 down ILB. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...combine-lb-skov-what-you-see-is-what-the-heck Being sidelined during Stanford's pro-day may have hurt his stock which could validate the 4th round pick. If he can improve his coverage ability he can be a 3 down ILB. Def like this draft mock.
I love Cooks in the 1st, a YAC machine. Much like Lee. But Cooks skill set may be better suited for this team. I like going after a CB in the 2nd, because I do see Fuller and/or Roby dropping to the 2nd. Just wondering, would you move up to grab one. Because there is no way they are dropping to the Jets pick. Or would you rather wait for Roberson. I love all of your 4th round selections, I have a hard time seeing Bryant falling to the 4th, but then again I never thought Justin Houston would drop to the 3rd a few years back. If Bryant is gone would you consider Phillip Gaines CB out of Rice. More of a project. Skov will let us move on from Harris next year. Great pick. Will help with our ST along with Tripp. Campanaro will make resigning Kerley a no longer a necessity. All in all, a great mock draft.
All in all I'd be excited with that draft. I'm curious if you see Jordan Tripp as an OLB or an ILB in the 3-4?
I believe he can play both inside or out. Tripp looked real good on the outside in drills at the Senior Bowl.
But can he set the edge as the OLB? He seems kind of light for that role unless you expect Coples to move to SAM?
Nice draft I think cooks is a great pick, assuming ebron/evans/lee etc. are off the board I dont know too much about roberson, seems like a quick, finese CB, do you think he can translate well as a man corner in our system? Bitonio is a nice prospect. How do you project him, an instant starter at OG with potential to swing outside and replace brick/breno? Skov looks the part as a long term replacement for harris. Wasnt sure about his coverage skills, but as you clarified earlier, he has sideline to sideline speed which is crucial in coverage. Would give us a nice ILB corp with Davis. I dont have a great feeling about bryant, but you cant deny he is stronger, better hands than stephen hill. I feel with decker, cooks, kerley, nelson, hill. I would still rather have an explosive back at this pick such as L. Seastrunk. He has alot of the same qualities as lesean mccoy, maybe just a little less experienced as a pass catcher. How do you think of him? Ladler is a solid pick, i agree that he is more talented than his combine numbers show. Dont know enough about tripp, campanaro, duncan, perkins, and renner to comment about them Hornsey will finally be our first NFL caliber punter Overall solid draft, fills alot of needs.
