From what little I know, the more I think about it, the more it seems to make sense to trade down if we can get equal value. There is just so much talent between the mid-1st round and the 3rd round. With the depth in this draft, we have the opportunity to grab some terrific players to enter our rotation and groom for the future. For example, some thing McCourty will drop; but even if he doesn't, there's a decent chance K. Jackson does. Or, if we trade down, we can grab one of the guys Mr. E mentioned in the 4th round (I'm going off of your analysis, since I don't know a lot on my own tbh). And there seem to be several NT and DE prospects in the 2nd/3rd round who would fit well like Cam Thomas and maybe Linval Joseph (early 2nd?). And it seems like some of the other OLBs like Sapp could fall to the 2nd/3rd. I hope that/don't know if we can find trade partners. This may sound crazy, but I'd love to move #29 and our 7th (644 pts) for #50, #82, #114 (644 pts). Then we'd have 5 picks in the 1st 4 rounds. Or, #29 (640 pts) for #37, #101, and #197. With 4/5 picks, we could hopefully get something along the lines of 1 OL, NT, DE, OLB, FS by choosing BPAs.
I just don't like the style of play from, McCourty. From what I've watched of him... McCourty just isn't that physical, he can't get off blocks, and I think he is lackluster in the tackling department. Although he does throw his body all over the place to attempt the tackle. I don't think he is very good in coverage to be honest, he definetely isn't a shutdown corner, he got passed on a lot actually. He is a special teams ace though, but I don't think that is good enough to be selected with the 29th overall pick. There should be a lot more talented players available at 29, other then, McCourty. I really hate where we are sitting in this draft... I'm not a big fan of a lot of guys that will be there by the time we are on the clock. Damn...
I would not like us picking a CB with our 1st round pick. The goal that we should be striving for is to put the best possible team on the field. With us having arguably have the best secondary in the NFL right now, I don't think we need to add another 1st round pick into it. We need to strengthen other parts of the team before we worry about the third CB like the starting defensive end opposite Ellis or the starting OLB opposite Pace. Those are positions where we could add starting talent with the 29th pick in the draft, why would we draft a 3rd CB? I'll concede that I wouldn't mind it if he was the overwhelming BPA, but the way the draft is stacked this year, I really doubt that being the case. It's not going to be like Randy Moss falling to the 21st pick in the draft that's for sure.
I think we sign Jason T before the draft. I have a feeling we wouldn't be picking at 29th. Either we jump up into the teens to grab one of the top two safeties if they slide, or we back out n go for BPA among CB, S, OLB, DL, n OL. We need a CB but not in the first. a 3rd rd CB could be ideal if we trade back into the 40s. To me, OLB n DE are the biggest needs this year. DE for obvious reasons n LB since Bryan Thomas is nearing the end of his Jet career as a starter.
What corner is a shut down corner?? The term is misused and not understood. Revis is about the only true shutdown CB I know and it took him a few years in the NFL to establish his reputation. Joe Haden isn't even a shutdown CB, he may become one eventually. What CB can get off blocks?? Any CB that is blocked by an Offesive lineman its all over. McCourty isn't physical?? In what way??? McCourty is one of the most physical CBs in this draft and has superior athletic ability.
I think McCourty ends up on the Vikings personally. Someone like Perrish Cox in the 2nd would be a better grab, but still too early for a corner I think. The perfect middle round corner imo Chris Cook. If we could get him in the 4th id be absolutely thrilled.
Its the other way around Perrish Cox's is a 3-4th round pick and Cook is a Mid to Late 2nd rounder at this point. But getting a guy like Cook anywhere in this draft besides 1st rnd is a great pickup
No, they don't. Walterfootball is pretty terrible most of the time - their writers are incredibly biased towards some players. The write up they did on Carlos Dunlap a few weeks ago just showed a complete lack of professionalism. I remember when Ryan Mathews wasn't even a top ten running back on that site. Scott Wright is a total douche, but his rankings are usually spot on.
I could see where your going with that they do have odd choices and opinions at times. But if that is a bad link let me suggest another ( Hopefully E agrees on this one haaha) http://www.drafttek.com/2010top10-6.asp they rank Cook at 47 and Cox at 107 soo like i said Cook a 2nd rounder , Cox a 3-4ther.
It doesn't seem like Taylor will sign before Thursday because the Dolphins insist on waiting until after the draft to make moves. I still think NYJ go after a DE/OLB round 1.
...Ok, good to go. Looks like there may be a little more to it from the Jets' side of things... http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/rutgers_mccourty_would_add_to_jets_Xjem2HGagPgQz8TzCLHMlO
I would be alittle uneasy after the McCourty pick just cause I want to upgrade the depth on both lines..but would be thrilled after realizing who we get at a later point. Great Job Pete
Crap, this sucks. I was about to have a draft with McCourty and Thomas with the first two picks. The more I think about it, if we don't trade out of the pick, I'd be fine with another corner.
McCourty would at the very least be a better option than reaching for someone that simply doesn't have the value. McCourty's going to be a really good player in the NFL, no matter where he goes.
There's no doubt he'll be a really good player, but are we going to commit $2 million per to a nickel in the first round? Doubtful. We'd essentially be writing off Cromartie as a one year deal regardless of his play. I just don't see us committing $20 million to the CB position over the long haul. If that's the case, we've used 2 picks and pushed a hole back to next year.
