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  1. egelband

    egelband Well-Known Member

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    btw, any thoughts on brad smith. i read he's lined up currently as the fourth wr. the dude is incredibly athletic and quick. could he emerge as a real producer?
     
  2. kelly

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    Video: Mike & Mike Discuss Jets QB Battle
    Posted by A. Greenbaum On June - 2 - 2009
    Video courtesy of ESPN.com.

    ESPN?s Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic preview the NFL?s biggest quarterback battles, including Kellen Clemens versus Mark Sanchez with the New York Jets. Mike and Mike explain why they think Sanchez will win the job.

    > http://holyjoenamath.com/2009/06/video-mike-mike-discuss-jets-qb-battle/
     
  3. kelly

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    Posted: Monday June 15, 2009 7:20AM; Updated: Monday June 15, 2009 12:51PM

    Peter King > MONDAY MORNING QB

    I'm mostly going off Favre watch for a week (I can just feel the disappointment out there) to talk about some other quarterbacks, Donovan McNabb and Mark Sanchez most notably, . . .

    ~ ~ Mark Sanchez did fine with his five-year, $47.5-million deal with New York, obviously. But there was no pillaging of the Jets salary cap. The only way to judge these things is the way you judge real estate, and when you do it that way, the Jets got more house for their money than Detroit and Atlanta got for theirs.Let's look at the quarterbacks picked in the top five of the last two years -- Matt Ryan third by Atlanta last year, Matthew Stafford first by Detroit this year, Sanchez fifth by the Jets this year. Ryan and Stafford signed six-year deals, but since Sanchez signed a five-year deal, let's compare apples to apples. Five years to five years. The money each will get over the first five years of their deals, with minimum playing-time incentives reached:

    Player Year picked Five-year total Five-year average

    Ryan 2008 $56.0 million $11.2 million

    Stafford 2009 $61.0 million $12.2 million

    Sanchez 2009 $47.5 million $9.5 million

    Now, Ryan and Stafford both got picked higher than Sanchez. That's a factor. But it's interesting this deal got done now, when there wasn't any pressure to get a deal done, rather than five weeks from now on the verge of camp, when the Jets might have been forced to pay more.

    ~ ~ Quote of the Week I

    "When we were looking at taking Mark, I studied all the great generals to see what those men were like early in their careers, see how they reacted. It's all about how they reacted in battle, what happened when the action was really live. You see that in Mark, his calm.''
    -- New York Jets owner Woody Johnson on rookie quarterback Mark Sanchez, who agreed to a five-year, $50-million contract with the team on Wednesday.

    I realize you get excited about your players, particularly about the man you believe is the next long-term quarterback in franchise history, but that is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard an owner say. I can name 300 quarterbacks lauded as great leaders with terrific field presence who have come out of college football in the 25 years I've covered the NFL.In fact, if a quarterback WASN'T a strong leader with a good presence about him, he shouldn't have been picked high in the first round. If indeed Johnson "studied all the great generals,'' and looked for traits of Sanchez in them, I hope he kept his thoughts to himself. The following quarterbacks in recent years have been well-respected by teammates, calm when the action began and renowned as terrific leaders:

    1. Charlie Batch
    2. Patrick Ramsey
    3. Tim Rattay
    4. A.J. Feeley
    5. Andrew Walter

    I remember being in Washington the day Heath Shuler was drafted in 1994, and Norv Turner raving about his leadership. In fact, Shuler was a terrific presence, well-liked by his mates, and couldn't play a lick. But he went on to win a Congressional seat in North Carolina. I'm sure he'd have fit in superbly in military command.One man's opinion: You don't help your rookie quarterback in the largest biggest city in the U.S. by building him up as some combo platter of Ulysses S. Grant, Joe Namath and Jonas Salk. The expectations being set up for him are almost Brady-like. I really like Sanchez a lot, and I think he has a good chance to be a very good NFL player. But the first time he throws five straight incompletions, the fans are going to look at him and say, "This is the bum we're paying $10-million a year?''

    ~ ~ Stat of the Week

    Comparing the rookie contracts of Joe Namath and Mark Sanchez, 45 years apart for the New York Jets:

    Player Year signed Total Value Avg./Year

    Namath 1964 3 $427,000 $142,333

    Sanchez 2009 5 $50 million $10 million

    Part of the value of Namath's contract was jobs for his three brothers and a brother-in-law, and a new car. Namath's average compensation per year was one-70th Sanchez's average pay.

    > http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/06/14/books/index.html?eref=sihp
     
  4. NDmick

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    ^ If robert kraft says it, its "genius"
     
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    The only thing I didn't like about the article was that he didn't mention the quality of the offensive line. If you throw a rookie QB out there with a non existent offensive line, he's dog meat. Add in that after getting hit so many times that he'll develop "Happy feet" and start hearing footsteps even when there is no one around... If your offensive line stinks, let a veteran take the beating while the kid learns how fast the NFL REALLY is but if you have a decent offensive line, then by all means, if he has shown he can do the job in training camp, let him start from day one. Every example that he sited as a success was a team that had a decent offensive line.
     
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    are we really depending on Brad Sith to be our # 2??? I mean we all love Cotchery but saw what happened to him when Coles went down. I cannot see us sitting pat and going with what we have------ps I luv Stuckey and am hoping for Clowney to be something but they are both small
     

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