WR Possibilities

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  1. al_toon_88

    al_toon_88 Well-Known Member

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    Based on Macc's comments thus far, he sounds pretty lukewarm on Mariota. Who knows, it could be a smokescreen or genuinely "too early in the process" from his perspective.

    After the late-season angst over the wins against Tennessee and Miami (costing us draft position and Mariota, theoretically), I agree it would be quite the disaster (for fans and likely for Macc) if Mariota were to fall in the Jets' laps only to have Macc pass on him and then the entire NFL nation watches him go on to become the next great NFL superstar QB for some other team.
     
  2. NCJetsfan

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    I've been trying to prepare myself for the possibility that Mac could just pass on Mariota. You're correct in saying that his comments have been lukewarm, and some anonymous scout also said that the Jets were planning on sticking with Geno. It could all be part of a planned smokescreen, but perhaps not. I was ready to quit following my beloved team if Idzik and Rex had stayed. I'm not sure what I will do if Mac passes on Mariota. I'll probably give him a chance depending upon whom he takes instead. If the player he picks turns out to be a great player for the Jets, regardless of what happens with Mariota, I probably won't hate him, want him fired or stop following the team. If both Mariota and the player he takes turn out to be average players, then I'll be perturbed that he didn't take a shot on Mariota or another player. However, if passes on Mariota and the player he takes busts or is only so-so, and Mariota becomes a quality QB elsewhere, that will probably be it for me as a Jets fan. I will take it as a sign that this franchise will never get it right. They've been through too many GMs, HCs and the like. Mac could probably make a rookie mistake, learn from it, rue it, and become a very good GM, but I'm pretty sure my heart just won't be in it any more. I'm not gonna be one of those fans in their 70s and/or 80s hoping and praying for the Jets to win one more before I die.
     
  3. rohirrim665

    rohirrim665 Well-Known Member

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    Jeez you are fickle. This whole post sounds like you have hemmorhoids. Your gonna stop following the team if these things happen? lol
     
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  4. rohirrim665

    rohirrim665 Well-Known Member

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    Have to agree, there needs to be SOME flexibility in your approach. If you have an A+ player at a stacked position and a solid A- player at a position of need then you'd have to go with the latter, for whatever my opinion is worth.
     
  5. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Think whatever you like, guy. I've been following this team for over 50 frigging years, and they have been an embarrassment and joke for most of their history. I'm tired of it. You may be a masochist and enjoy the misery and humiliation. I don't. If Woody can't get it right, eff him and the Jets, and for that matter, eff you and anyone else who doesn't like my attitude! Cheers!
     
  6. rohirrim665

    rohirrim665 Well-Known Member

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    Well I'm younger than you but I'm just saying we all know your not going to stop rooting for the team so let's not say things we don't actually mean. It would make absolutely no sense for you to stop following the team at this point. Face it bud, your stuck. No other team is going to give you the same thrills when they win because you have conditioned yourself for over 50 years to be a Jets fan. So no matter who you start rooting for it would never even compare, or you'd just stop watching the game? That's ridiculous. Not to mention god forbid they win the superbowl while you still draw breath, your telling me your not gonna come running back, are you going to not watch that superbowl if Todd Bowles ends up getting them there in a few years, even though they decided to pass on Mariota? LOL come on, mean what you say!

    PS, I will not be all that worried if Mariota falls to us and we pass. There are other teams who need a QB who are picking before us. If he's still there and we don't pull the trigger, I'd have to think there'd be a good reason.
     
  7. al_toon_88

    al_toon_88 Well-Known Member

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    50 years...wow, you and Joe Beningo. Did you ever get to watch Namath in person?

    If they had kept Rex / Bradway / Idzik or hired Marrone, I think that might have been it for me as well.

    I am a little younger, been a fan since I was 5 years old. One of my earliest memories (heartbreaks) was sitting in the den with my parents and bro watching the '82 mud bowl. They must have called "AJ Duhe"'s name like 100 times that game.

    I used to live and die with the Knicks, but once they traded Patrick Ewing that was basically it. I nominally rooted for them for a couple years after that but my heart was simply not in it anymore with Jimmy "blues band" Dolan running the show.

    Although I can't see myself jumping ship on the Jets anytime soon, dumping the Knicks was one decision I have never regretted for a second.
     
  8. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Well, if that's what you all think, then you'd be wrong. I'm not stuck, and it would make a lot of sense to me to stop. I don't nearly enjoy football as much as I used to. That's for a number of reasons...my life is too busy to be spending as much time as I have following the Jets, I don't like the way things are going in the NFL and society in general regarding sports, Jets games are rarely shown in NC (our local CBS affiliate ALWAYS opts for another game even when the chart shows that this region is supposed to show the Jets games), and then there's Woody and the Jets themselves, which is the main reason. Leon Hess was a doddering old moron. Woody has been better, but only marginally. That moron Rex, his buffonery, the circus, and Idzik's blowing a 12 player draft while passing on a great QB prospect in Bridgewater and failing to get one good WR out of that draft all but killed my love for this team.

    Woody's actions this off season gave me more hope than I have had in a long while and they're the only reason I'm here now, but if they prove to be false, then I don't think I have it in me for any more disappointments and frustration from this franchise. 51+ years will be enough misery for a lifetime. Life is hard enough without asking for more disappointments and frustration. I will never root against the Jets, but will stop making an effort to see games, stop scanning the net for Jets news, and spending hours a day reading and posting here. I have a very good football team here in NC, and Green Bay was actually the first team I rooted for. I've never joined one of their fan boards and never would, but I can watch those two teams' games if I want to see good football, and won't have nearly the emotional investment or heartache if things go bad.

    I can honestly say that if it comes to the point that I stop following and rooting for the Jets and they win a SB, I won't care. They'll be dead to me. If anything, I'll probably laugh and say "Effing Jets!!! It effing figures they'd win after I stopped caring."
     
  9. NCJetsfan

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    No, unfortunately, but Jets games were on NBC here (NC) every week or almost every week. I don't think I missed many games in his career with the Jets. I got to see our one shining moment in the sun in SB III.

    Oh, the mud bowl and AJ Duhe. The pain is still there. Did that mutt ever play nearly as well against anyone else as he did the Jets? If he had played just the Jets in his career, he'd be in the HOF. That's a tough early memory, and it's a wonder you're still here. At least my early memories were all good. They carried me though a lot of lean years to the days of Klecko, Wesley Walker, McNeil and others, and the memories of their play carried me through lean years until Parcells arrived.

    I hope it will never have to come to leaving my love and fandom for the Jets behind, but it could very easily.
     
  10. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    Who cares it's just a damn game it's not that serious
     
  11. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    It becomes serious (at least for me) when it's your passion and you spend hours a day reading, writing and thinking about the team. If you can stay detached, good for you. I don't know how to do that. When I care for something or someone, it's with my whole heart, not just part of my heart, or with a detached sense.
     
  12. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you should pick up a hobby or something. Ya I'm a diehard jets fan but I also realize it's only a game

    At the end of the day if the jets win or lose I'm waking up the next morning
     
  13. al_toon_88

    al_toon_88 Well-Known Member

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    It's nice that you got to experience the thrill of SB III, at least.

    I got chills watching a replay of the game in full on NFL Network.

    I can't imagine what it would feel like for the Jets to make it to a SB, let alone win one.

    In '98 after we blocked the punt in the 1st half I started to let myself believe finally....Super Bowl

    That was the year the Vikings went like 14-2 but Atlanta upset them in the NFC championship.

    There was no doubt in my mind we would have destroyed the Falcons in the Super Bowl.
     
  14. Ben Had

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    There are more good FA WR's already this year than I can remember in a long time. It's also a very deep WR class for the draft which may be why a lot of these guys are shown the door.
     
  15. PulseJet

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    Agreed, with guys like Hartline and Douglas available it may make the Harvin camp rethink their stance. I know Harvin is a much more talented guy then those names, but he gets injured more so his net production is the same.
     
  16. JetsNation06

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    As purely a WR, I'd take Douglas over Harvin. Harry Doug is a polished, very good route runner with good speed. In terms of how they affect the game overall, I'd probably take Harvin because of his ability to line up all over the field, return kicks and break it on any play. However, I don't think Harvin's stock is as high as some people may think. He needs to go to a system really tailored to his skillset or I don't think he ever reaches his full potential. He's not an every down true WR, that's for sure.

    The Jets can definitely find a good solid FA WR this year to replace Harvin and for cheaper.
     
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  17. NOVAJET

    NOVAJET "2020 TGG Fantasy Football Champ"

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    That's exactly right. I would not be surprised if Vjax was added to the list of available players along with Marshall, Wallace, Welker, Cobb, Harvin....plus the guys already available like Douglas, Hartline.... this year seems as if the FA WR class will have a wealth of productive vets and the draft looks loaded again this year.
    That's why I can't figure out why some would overpay for Harvin when supply and demand could be in our favor this off season.
    I love White and Cooper too but I also feel like if we can get Cobb or Marshall... then I am fine with waiting till the second round to get a guy like strong if he is available and going Fowler or BPA in the first.
     
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    49ers released WR Stevie Johnson.

    The move will save San Francisco $6.025 million against the 2015 salary cap. Acquired from Buffalo for a fourth-round pick last May, Johnson posted a 35/435/3 line in his lone season in San Francisco. A crisp route runner, Johnson had three straight 1000-yard receiving seasons under new Jets OC Chan Gailey while the pair were in Buffalo. He should find a healthy market as a solid possession receiver.


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    I would definitely like to bring him in on a one or two year prove it deal in the range of 3-4mm per year. He used to give fits to Revis. I'm not sure if it was more health reasons or Kaepernick that drove his decline last year. but him, Decker , Kerley and Cooper/White would make a great receiving core.
     
  19. Axel3419

    Axel3419 Well-Known Member

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    I think we have our first FA wide receiver pickup.
     
  20. al_toon_88

    al_toon_88 Well-Known Member

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    Stevie is washed up. It would be like throwing money (and cap space) away.
     

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