I don't look at meaningless fantasy #s to judge. That week we had the Braylon DUI controversy and Braylon(his best weapon at the time- Holmes was still suspended) missed the 1st qtr yet he got us out to a 14-0 lead early through the air. After Miami came back to take the lead he needed one play to get the lead back to us and he led our O to 31 pts. That's an elite performance. Yards are nice but it's about scoring pts and he threw THREE TDs and led us to 31 points. Would you rather have 400 yds passing and lose 21-17?
no but then again Sanchez has never played a meaningless game for his team in week 17. 16-25, 194, 3 TDs, 0 INTs leading his O to 28 pts on the road to outduel Tom Brady in the div round is MUCH more impressive than some meaningless game against the Lions in week 17.
According to quite a number of people on this board, week 17 against Miami this year was meaningless. I say that because when I was arguing that Miami knocked the Jets out of the playoffs, people were telling me I was wrong because it was the Giants game that knocked them out. I'm not saying he didn't have a good game. I'm disputing that it worthy of being called an "elite" game.
194 yards shows that they won the game because of the running game, with Sanchez having to do very little. His 8 yard TD throws are not very impressive. And he didn't outduel anyone. The defense was able to slow Brady down, not Sanchez. Sanchez would never win a shoot-out with an elite qb. It just proves the point that Sanchez can only beat good teams IF, and thats a big if, the defense and running game bring their A games. Then you can control his throws and prevent turnovers. If you force him to win a game against a good team all by himself, he will start turning the ball over.
Your argument would probably be more convincing if it wasn't riddled with incorrect exaggerations. You have been edging toward troll territory more every day. Sometimes I start reading your posts and think it's a jetsown22 post.
It did turn out to be meaningless but we were a skidding team not a 1 seed playing around in week 17. it was a GREAT game against a team that swept us the year before and a team that was sky high after starting 2-0. Before the late run by Greene after we had essentially wrapped things up after recovering the OS kick Greene had 56 yds but clearly he carried us. The 3 biggest plays of the game on O were all pass plays: -the 3rd and 6 trailing 3-0 in the 2nd qtr where Sanchez sscrmabled and poitnted to moce Braylon before throwing a dart down the sideline to set up our first TD -The pass to Cotch early in the 4th after NE cut the lead to 3 which set up the TD to put us up 10 in the 4th. -the 3rd down perfect TD pass to Holmes in the corner of the EZ
So the TD to Holmes in the NE playoff game or the Houston game was less impressive because they were less than 8 yards? This is what this debate has come to?!!?!???
Who gives a shit about elite performamces ? This is a ground and pound rush first defensive team. Elite Performance really means our team fucking sucks so our QB had to mask the holes all over our team. Look at Peyton, Rodgers, Brady, and to a lesser degree Brees. Their teams are generally heaping piles of dog shit, with virtually no defenses or ground games. Sanchez hasnt been asked to CARRY this team with elite performances because were not built that way
#s never tell the whole story, w. most QBs the more attempts and pass yds the less successful the team usually is b/c it means they have to throw.
Psst, in 2011 the Pats were ranked higher than the Jets in both rushing and defense. http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/t...alPointsPerGame/position/defense/seasontype/2 http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/seasontype/2
You would? Did you know that in the last 5 years there have been 48 times when a QB has thrown for over 400 yards. Do you know how many have won games when they threw for 400+? Only 18 for a winning percentage of .375
Pts/game is a poor reflection of a teams defense when its offense sucks balls and constantly turns it over w/ favorable field position for easy points. The pats virtually being tied for most yards allowed shows that picture clearer. And having that moron schitty as OC giving us almost the same rush attempts as the pats is yet Another reason he needed to go
And I'll bet 90% of those games, the team was behind by 14-21+ points resulting in constant throwing trying to play catch-up. This is exactly why the Pats and Packers allowed the most passing yardage this past season.
Is that also why they were 29th in YPA too ? Cuz i thought when youre leading youre suppossd to play to stop the big plays
When the Pats went into that soft, prevent defense, teams were consistently hitting the 15-20 yard completions. Other than one long TD against the Colts, they pretty much defended against the home run ball.
So let's throw out all the games where a team was trailing miserably and the opposing defense was allowing them to complete the underneath stuff to the tune of 300-400+ yards. I have no problem with that, but once we do that, we're still left with efforts where the numbers speak for themselves. However... that you folks have to go through such machinations to try to find just one elite performance by Sanchez really answers the question.
