Would you trade sanchez and 1st round for??

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  1. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    The sad part is that you actually believe Sanchez is a better option than all those guys.
     
  2. RevisIsland18

    RevisIsland18 Well-Known Member

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    i never said any of the qb sucked...i would rather have mark and give him at least 5 years b4 i decide mark is a franchise qb or not
     
  3. RevisIsland18

    RevisIsland18 Well-Known Member

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    sure do...i've drank the kool aid, but yet you haven't given your opinion why the other qbs are much better nor you have made any points to persuade me to think otherwise
     
  4. milcus

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    I was impressed when I watched him in the NFL. He just looked like a man among boys, and he seems to have the attributes that can translate. He has good instincts, good speed, a solid arm, and very good accuracy.

    Now, the fact that he is from Baylor scares me both because its a shitty football program and there have been no good qb's from Baylor. But I think he has an intriguing skill set that can translate.

    As for years, its not about that for me. Its watching a guy and seeing if he gets how to be a pro qb or not. If he can read defenses or not. If he can adjust to a blitz or not. A lot of people who dont like Sanchez talk about the turnovers, and while that is an issue to me, I dont dwell on it as much as others. For me, its about having football iq and a feel for the game. Many guys who stuggle, you can tell they might be adjusting to the game, but they have football iq. And with Sanchez, he doesn't. But with RG3, if he shows that he gets how to play qb in the NFL, then you will see that in year 1. And just like with Newton, I think he can have a lot of success in year 1.
     
  5. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I don't feel the need to make any points attempting to persuade someone who lives in an alternate reality derived from being punch drunk on Jet juice. It would be a waste of everyone's time.
     
  6. milcus

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    Thats all you took out of that post, that I mentioned AP? Jesus christ...
     
  7. PatsFanTX

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    That's fair enough, but to say you would rather have Sanchez over all those other QB's is absolutely delusional.

    Sanchez has started 54 NFL games, that's a large enough body of work to know where he stands.

    Unfortunately, he stands far below all those other QB's.
     
  8. milcus

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    What kool aid? Even his biggest supporters dont think he is great.

    You are literally the first person that thinks he is great, and would want only 3 guys in the NFL over him.

    That isn't drinking koolaid, that is more like hanging out with rabbies infected animals and getting some of what they have...
     
  9. RevisIsland18

    RevisIsland18 Well-Known Member

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    ok i will bite on that. what about the fact that sanchez has had so many comebacks the past few years? Its not like the defense stops playing during that. Sanchez can read the defenses during the comebacks which somewhat proves he can read defenses during the game but does make boneheaded plays. as lot of the others have mentioned, maybe he just looked terrible because of the "mutant" offense and when he was allowed to play "properly" in the 2 min offense or during the comebacks, he has proved, to me at least, he's a legit starter in the nfl and i have trust in him unless he doesn't improve in the next couple of years
     
  10. RevisIsland18

    RevisIsland18 Well-Known Member

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    lol...i dont have rabbies...i dont think anyways...

    any who, i am one of those people who believes in giving a guy a time to develop within a system while he's young and just not get rid of him for the flavor of the month.
     
  11. PatsFanTX

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    But those comebacks would have never occured if he didn't play so poorly the first three quarters of those games.

    And look who those comebacks came against: Texans, Lions, Browns, Bills, etc., all bottom feeding defenses at the time.

    Where was the Sanchez 4th quarter comeback against the Ravens this year???????????
     
  12. RevisIsland18

    RevisIsland18 Well-Known Member

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    yes i would have him over them at this point.
     
  13. milcus

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    Of course the defense changes late in games. Instead of an attack defense, most teams employ a prevent defense late in a game. That means the whole fucking middle is open. They cover the sidelines, and the safeties are way back to prevent the big plays. Most of the comebacks have been Sanchez beating that kind of defense, getting it close, and then getting touchdown's late.

    There is reason that even in those comebacks he did nothing for 3.5 quarters when teams played their regular defense and only started playing better when the prevent defense was used.

    This isn't rocket science man.

    And that doesnt prove he can read defenses during a game. Because he simply cant. He has no fucking clue what a safety is doing on most plays. Literally none. He has no clue what happens when linebackers drop back. No clue what happens when teams drop back in zone. And he has no fucking clue what to do when he sees a blitz. He simply has no football iq.

    He is good at hitting wide open receivers either against a prevent defense or a regular defense. But if you mix it up against him even just a little bit, he becomes lost..

    And, people talk about the mutant offense. But they dont talk about how maybe the offense was what it was because Sanchez is fucking terrible.

    And you can have faith in him all you want. That doesnt negate the fact that he is an awful qb and needs to go.
     
  14. RevisIsland18

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    no one comebacks in all the games they're losing. that game was lost by the 2nd quarter
     
  15. RevisIsland18

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    lol...i guess we'll just agree to disagree. you and i both know sanchez isn't going anywhere. if he is traded, who do you except that will be take us to the next level w/ all these holes in offense?
     
  16. milcus

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    That is fair. It really is. But at the same time, to say you want him over everyone aside from 3 guys is over the top.

    If you are a Jets fan, your first priority should be to win a championship. And if you think that only 3 guys give the Jets a better chance to do that than Sanchez, you are not being honest with yourself.
     
  17. milcus

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    I fear that Sanchez will be here, but I have high hopes that he will be gone.

    If he is not, my order of preference is:

    1. A healhy Manning
    2. RG3
    3. Tannenhall
    4. Flynn
    5. Campbell

    And I think when all is said and done the offense with any of those guys will be instantly better, and aside from that, there will be a lot of changes on offense this year.
     
  18. RevisIsland18

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    well we can come back to this after sanchez's performance in 2012 under sparano and more or less it will prove either you or i were correct...until then, a polite handshake to u good sir
     
  19. PatsFanTX

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    That was a 10 point game at halftime.

    Good QB's can certainly overcome a 10-point halftime deficit.
     
  20. fozzi58

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    You can't throw Sanchez to the curb while Sparano is installing a new offensive system. That's the equivalent to you taking a drivers exam with a car that only makes left turns and then giving you a failing grade for your driving abilities.

    Bringing in a more qualified backup than Brunell should be a top 5 priority, I'm a Sanchez supporter but he should have a fire lit under his ass. But just cutting Mark or selling the farm for RG3 or another high draft pick is lunacy.

    Cutting him is draft hell for the Jets.

    Drafting a 1st round QB ends his confidence with the Franchise or puts the chip on his shoulder. Then should he perform, he's gonna even more expensive instead of the hometown discount.

    Bringing in Manning is not happening so you can strike that from your list.
     
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