Would You Fire Marvin Lewis?

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Would you Fire Marvin Lewis?

  1. Yes. Time is up.

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  2. No. The Bengals are on the right path. Stay the course.

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  1. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    This year was by far Cincy's best shot, and Dalton gets himself injured.

    A twist of fate against Lewis, sonuva gun..... Part of the NFL....I keep him


    God I hate the Steelers
     
  2. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    You reluctantly fire him IMO unless you give him a one more prove it year. At this point you can't keep excelling in the regular season and piss yourself in the playoffs. It's not only that they lose, it's also that they routinely lose to lower seeds at home.

    It's unfortunate for him because he's a really good coach in my opinion that is helping to turn his coordinators into really good coaches (Jay Gruden and Mike Zimmer are both in the playoffs with good defenses).

    He might be a good fit for the Giants and turning that defense around. The playoff record is almost cultural for the Bengals and not even so much Lewis. I think he's going to succeed somewhere else.

    There's very few coaches who could control Burfict IMO. I just hope he doesn't go to New England if they cut him.
     
  3. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for the double post. I don't feel like going through the process of quoting this in my other post on my phone. Laziness at its finest.

    That's the other thing. You need to know the coach replacing him is going to be a good candidate. With Coughlin available it seems like a good swap. What you don't want to do is bring in a first year head coach or an unproven commodity as a head coach ala Hue Jackson. This is a win now team with a damn near elite defense and great offensive playmakers. Parcells is too old and too retired for it but he'd be perfect.
     
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  4. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Yea but still,You don't fire a coach with a 12-4 record its just not a good idea.....unless you think you have the "holy grail" of NFL coaches to bring in.Continuity is massivley important in the NFL.Something we have never had
     
  5. TNJet

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    I say fire him because all Cinci does is take up a playoff spot. They are to winning playoff games as Buffalo was to winning Super Bowls. A complete waste.
     
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  6. Burnz

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    I understand but still 0-5 past 5times is just...and would be nerve racking
     
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  7. mute

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    You guys don't know what goes down and how he really coaches players behind closed doors. With that said I would fire him because every year they get destroyed in the 1st round.

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    And also can we stop with the thug crap please?

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  9. NCJetsfan

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    Yes, I would fire him. The HC is responsible for the culture on the team and the discipline (or lack thereof) of his players. Coughlin deserved to get fired for Beckham, Jr.'s acting like a punk or thug on the field and Lewis deserves to get fired because he obviously wanted and tolerated both Pacman Jones and Burfict and hasn't done anything to try to mold/change their character. It's one thing to give players a second chance, but you lay down the law to them and you don't tolerate that kind of behavior in the name of winning.
     
  10. dawinner127

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    Aww. Did I hurt someone's feelings? They are what they are. Thugs. Pacman jones is a thug. He has had countless incidents where he's gotten in Trouble with the law. And vontaze burfict or however you spell it is a thug. He's had problems when he came out of college and he has problems now. He's a sociopath.
     
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  11. Red Menace

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    It is what it is, I don't agree with EVERYONE on that team being labeled a thug, but some of those guys live by a certain street mantra that they enjoy putting out as part of their public persona.

    It's not just the bengals, I'm sure every team has some of those players.
     
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  12. BrowningNagle

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    Lewis was a big part of the problem for the running back fumbling. It was a terrible decision just to give him the ball.
    He could've have taken a knee 3 times, kicked a FG. a 19-15 lead with 40 secs left and no timeouts for Pittsburgh. Game pretty much over.

    But even if you don't want to criticize him for not taking knees there, he made the decision to hand it off to Jeremy Hill who is a well known fumbler. 8 fumbles in just 2 seasons. hand the ball to someone else!!!

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    to answer the OPs question though I would fire him. Not because he "can't control his team" thats reactionary from the latest meltdown. I'd fire him because they choke and meltdown every single year with a very talented, balanced roster. They won't fire him though because ownership is cheap
     
  13. Big Blocker

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    It would be a close call to fire him, certainly the 12-4 record is in his favor. But I think I would given the combination of the miserable playoff record and his team being out of control.
     
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  14. zace

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    Its amazing how many people think he should be fired. I think its insane and illustrates exactly whats wrong with the NFL and why the talent has dipped dramatically in recent years. Nobody want to give anyone time to develop or grow.

    One poster had it right, the successful teams have one thing in common, continuity. They dont keep changing parts every few years.

    So you fire Marvin Lewis? Who replaces him? Some coordinator whis never coached, because you think SOMEDAY hell be a great coach? You keep the guy who knows what hes doing.

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  15. Red Menace

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    I would not fire him, there is a lot going on right now because of how they lost. The bottom line is, they did not have their starting QB and this game is easily won by the Bengals if Dalton is healthy.

    At the end of the day, it's about the Bengals making money, no matter who they bring in, it's going to put the team in transition mode for a couple of years, possibly no playoffs, maybe a losing record for a couple of years until the new system takes hold.

    Why would ownership do that when they have been making money hand over fist even though they lose in the first round with Marv as their HC?

    It's all about the money, and it has been good for them from a business perspective.

    JMO
     
  16. TNJet

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    Thug doesn't denote race. I consider Richie Incognito and Aaron Hernandez thugs.
     
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    Personally I thought he should be fired last year . You never know what would happen with a healthy Dalton but I never liked him in a big spot . As far as continuity,,,and what coach would be better ? I'm all in favor of change, you think Tom Coughling wins anything had he stayed in Jacksonville ? The fans there hated him and were glad to see him go,,,,,maybe he learned from that experience, I think he did. Look at old man Schottenheimer , they kept him around for years and had great seasons are were perineal losers,,,,means nothing to get there every year only to get spanked , its about winning the whole thing. Btw the Bengals are one cheap ass organization money wise so if he does get fired Coughlin or any other big name coach is not being brought in
     
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  18. NYJFan10

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    Marvin Lewis has had twelve seasons - TWELVE! This isn't firing Jimmy Tomsula after 16 games or Pettine after two seasons with a dysfunctional QB. And not only has he never gotten over even a hill in the postseason let alone the hump but he showed he has zero control of his locker room which really he never has. The Bengals have been running their mouths since the days of Ochocinco.
     
  19. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    Adam Schefter is reporting that Marvin Lewis is safe. Guess going (12-4) in a season overrides going (0-7) in the playoffs. The poll is pretty split, but I can see either way.
     
  20. Falco21

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    Idk how you could fire the guy. Yes, they have a playoff drought but I highly doubt they lose this game with Andy Dalton healthy.

    He was dealt a shitty hand this year. Andy Dalton was on fire and happens to get hurt right before playoffs. That sucks. Not to mention, you can't coach players from making illegal hits. Burfict has done that his entire career. That's not the coaches fault.

    And I am fully on Pacman Jones side regarding the penalty. That was a bullshit penalty on a player defending himself and his team from an ignorant coach taunting them on the field, somewhere he should have never been.

    I don't blame Marvin Lewis for any of that. Guy was really dealt a bad hand
     

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