Would like to know where the Idzik plan suck people at?

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  1. 74

    74 Well-Known Member

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    I already wrote a mock draft for the Jets before last years draft. Feel free to peruse it in the draft forum.
     
  2. jetlife21

    jetlife21 Well-Known Member

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    Easy to say now.
     
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  3. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    You don't overpay for mediocre when you're rebuilding. That's how we got into the mess we were in.
     
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    I would have never taken a Safety in the first round, that was absolutely the wrong pick.

    Oh yeah and Milliner says he's the best CB in the league during training camp.

    Geno is a Pro Bowler

    Someone will claim to be a first ballot HOFer before the season ends, which can't come soon enough.
     
  5. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    Kyle Wilson will say it.
     
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    IMO you minimize the damage a blown draft does, especially one with 12 draft picks. That does a WHOLE lot more damage to a team and over a period of 5-8 years than signing one or two over-priced FAs. Teams need those cheaper young players who exceed the value of their contracts to make the cap work. You way underestimate their importance.

    Conversely, imo you way overestimate the impact that an over-priced FA or two makes. They may hinder your cap a little, but if you're drafting really well and have a lot of excellent young players on your roster who are on their rookie contracts, by the time they are ready to sign a new deal, more than likely, those over-priced FAs are gone and their cap hits gone as well unless you've signed them to a long-term deal. IMO 8-12 bad young players drafted in one year hurts a team a whole lot worse than 1-2 overpaid players. They leave a lot more holes.
     
  7. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    In what game has Bridgewater looked "terrible"? I haven't been able to see any of his games, but I've looked at every one of the box scores of his games, and don't recall seeing a single game where he was "terrible" or even bad.
     
  8. JetLifeLo

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    People please promise me that we will stop calling the Idziot a "Money Guy". He's not even that. lol. He's just a cheap ass that's scared to make a move. He wont get far like that.
     
  9. James Hasty

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    DRC started 12 games for the Giants. Last time I checked they had a better record than us.

    We would have been a better team with him than without him.
     
  10. Geno007

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    IF they keep Idzik look for him to spend like crazy this off season. He will know his job will be on the line next season.
     
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    We would be even better with Revis
     
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    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    True, they are steamrolling us with those 4 wins. So you're telling me you would be perfectly fine with overpaying a guy for 5 years who is mediocre at best so that we could go from two wins to four wins?
     
  13. James Hasty

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    Who ever said that DRC was overpaid?

    His contract is fairly reasonable if he is any good. The fact that he is starting would at least imply that the man is earning this paycheck. The Giants secondary was a sad joke a few years ago but they have invested high draft picks and valuable cap space to improve.

    Starting caliber CBs don't come cheap. Even if Millner and some other guy somehow succeed we still need at least three good CBs to get past guys like Payton Manning and Tom Brady in the playoffs.
     
  14. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Stopped reading there, because I knew nothing good was going to come of your post. So to answer the only part I read... he's owed more money guaranteed than some top tier corners in the league. That's the definition of being overpaid.
     
  15. FlaJet

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    Easy. You hire a pencil pusher like Idzik.
     
  16. James Hasty

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    DRC got a $10 mil signing bonus on a $35 mil 5 year contract. There is only another $1.9 mil that was guaranteed.

    DRC is the 15th highest paid CB.

    Idzick paid Eric Decker $36.25 mil over the same five years with $15 mil guaranteed.

    Decker is the 18th highest paid WR.

    Has Decker really added more value for us than DRC has for the Giants?
     
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    I'm absolutely with you on DRC, regardless of what the actual guaranteed contract was. And generally, I don't have a problem with the overall approach Idzik has taken which is why I'd give him another year. I do have a problem with some of the low price FAs he's signed - Patterson being the biggest mistake - and with the last draft in general.
     
  18. Br4d

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    And you know this doesn't matter at all. You don't give mediocre players big contracts because your 1st round round rookie might get hurt and miss the season.

    You know why we're 2-11? Because Marty Mornhinweg and David Lee could not turn Geno into a real NFL QB. They probably didn't have a realistic shot at doing that but they missed whatever shot there was.

    Everything else is secondary (no pun intended) to the disaster that we're witnessing right now. The Geno of the 5 game void last year turned out to be the actual guy. The Jets gave him lots of weapons to play with and he wasn't even passable (no pun intended) with those guys. Then Decker got hurt and he went right back into the tank.

    It just is what it is. Whether Vick would have salvaged the season if the Jets turned to him earlier is unclear but he definitely wasn't up to the job of turning around a 1-7 clubhouse.
     
  19. James Hasty

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    Good point about Patterson.

    If we had signed DRC we would have saved the time and money we wasted on Patterson.
     
  20. jetlife21

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    Bridgewater has looked overwhelmed at times this year.. I'll give him benefit of the doubt because the rest of the offense has been bad too but he's been "terrible" to bad a few times.
    23/37, 188yards, 0 tds/3 ints vs. Lions.
    15/26, 157 yards, 1 td/2 ints very next week vs. Bills.
    18/28, 158 yards, 1 td/1 int vs. Bears
    He didn't do anything special against us. His speedy WR's got open against our terrible secondary and he got a lucky 90 yard screen td pass in OT that really helped out his numbers. He's thrown 2 td passes 3 consecutive weeks(which he shouldn't have last week) but only had 4 tds in 7 games going into it along with 5 picks.
    I actually like Teddy and remember not minding if we took him draft night but I don't think we missed out on the next star QB in the league.
     

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