Then according to your argument, Idzik is twice as good a GM as Parcells. In 2000, Parcells had 4 first rounders and we ended up with one clear bust (Becht, couldn't catch worth a damn), one borderline bust (Pennington, between weak arm and injuries), one really talented guy in Abraham who nevertheless had a lot of injuries himself early on in his career, much like Milliner, and one steady contributor in Ellis who never consistently lived up to his draft status. Richardson is better than any of those 4, and Milliner is more talented than 3 of them.
That would actually make me happy, it's the only game left that I wish they would cruch the opponent! Pressure is already getting to Woody.
Majorly crazy post. - Chad Pennington is probably the second best QB to play in the division since he was drafted, and the best QB to play for the Jets in the intervening 14 years. You have somewhat of a case for over-the-hill Favre, I suppose, but it's borderline, and nobody else comes close. - John Abraham has been an _excellent_ player in the NFL over a 14 year (!) career, with 9th most career sacks in _NFL history_. He had 17.5 sacks his first two years (even though he missed 10 games due to injury) and went to the Pro Bowl his second year. Please don't compare him with Dee "benched three times for poor performance" Milliner, who didn't get an interception until the 16th game last year. And for that matter, how do you know what Richardson's injury history is going to be? You can't ding the pick based on that sort of factor. - Shaun Ellis has also turned out to be a pretty good pick; better than "steady". 8.5 sacks in his rookie season, strong line play, 10 year career with the Jets over which he collected 72 sacks (so 7.2 sacks a year for ten years). Really, you want a HOF player at every pick? - Anthony Becht - meh, he sucked. But whatever. That 2000 draft was perhaps the best draft the Jets have ever had. The only ding against the Jets (actually against every team in the NFL) was that the first 198 players picked were the wrong ones.
We overachieved last year, and we underachieved this year. Rex is to blame in both cases. That's why this is so hard.
The cap is only what you do with it. There are no prizes for ending the year with the most cap room. He gets credit for Sheldon Richardson, but let's not go overboard with those other stiffs yet. Aboushi played no games last year and was likely to play no games this year until Brian Winters got injured. I would be less surprised if every player in that draft turned out to be a bust, including Jace "hands of stone" Amaro. I have two words for TEs and WRs who can't catch the ball: Waiver wire. Not to say he won't be good, but he's not the 20th best TE in the league this year. And what is with naming these JAGs as valuable picks? Players of the quality of Pryor and Dozier are available on practice squads every year. Ivory is pretty good, but he's not that great. The Patsies seem to be getting plenty out of (undrafted) Jonas Gray and (signed _twice_ for a bag of balls) LeGarrette Blount. The running game is perhaps more a function of the line than the back. The Harvin one intrigues me. I don't know how it will turn out, but it's a gamble I liked, so sure. I honestly don't know what to say here. You're actually giving him _credit_ for Michael Vick (!!) and Eric Decker (!!!) Maybe he can overpay JaMarcus and Randy Moss while he's at it. Yeah, actually, it is.
Have a question? If Rex was forced by Idzik to start Geno in the beginning of the season? Shouldn't it be Idzik fault? Since Geno was basically named the starter at the beginning of train camp. When everybody was suppose to win there starting job from what Idzik preach all off season.
Heh, so you argue something, get a counter argument that defeats your position, then fall back on using the team's record during a rebuilding year... Good job. So being better than the likes of Geno, Sanchez, Doug Floutie and Jay Fiedler accounts for something? I'm not trying to trash Pennington, because believe it or not, he is one of my favorite Jets, and I can still remember rooting so hard for him to start over Testaverde back in the early 2000s. But I feel like there is a huge case of rose colored goggles with Jets fans now when it comes to Pennington. Part of it just has to do with how terrible our QBs have been as of late, and compared to them, Pennington does indeed look good. But I've been there, I watched his games, and he was never as good as people make him out to be. First of all, the guy could barely stay healthy. Every other year he would get a major injury/surgery, and in between those, minor stuff. That alone already disqualifies him from being a good/great QB, since obviously you need your QB to actually play most of the time. On top of that, people often bring up his stats, his amazing accuracy percentage and relatively high QB ratings, but the thing is, having watched him during those years, those stats are the result of him dinking and dunking the ball to death. Almost all his throws were these short passes to the side or near the line of scrimmage. Sometimes our players like Coles or Moss would take those for long gains, but the throws themselves were very easy stuff. Almost any QB who would only throws those would get good stats in terms of accuracy. Pennington had a weak arm that made him unable to throw the ball downfield with any zip (I remember his attempts floating), and then injuries made it even worse. Eventually the defenses figured that out and started packing the box, not respecting him downfield at all, and the offense suffered as a result. So when you draft a QB in the 1st round like Pennington, the expectation is to draft a franchise QB, and between his injuries and arm strength limitations, Pennington never became that, in my opinion, and that's why I personally consider him a borderline bust. You may disagree of course. My point was Milliner is widely considered a bust by the fan base because he got injured for most of the year this year. Well, John Abraham missed significant time in 2 of his first 4 seasons, so it's nice to be consistent. Also, I did say Milliner is more talented than 3 of them, not 4, never claimed he was more talented than Abraham. You are also undervaluing Milliner, who came on very strong in the last month of last year (so it wasn't just one game), and looked very good when healthy this year. He played 11 years with us, so his actual average is 6.6 sacks per year. That's pretty unimpressive for a 4-3 DE. We've had interior linemen and over-the-hill linebackers get almost twice as much last year. Again, steady player, had some big moments, but overall, not what you are looking for ideally out of 12th overall pick.
lol @ the idea that Eric Decker doesn't bring a massive improvement to our team. He's been on and off the field, we have an awful QB, and yet he's STILL our best WR by far and better than any of our WR's last year by far.
You mean like being able to trade for Harvin because you have free cap space? Or signing the #1 available FA WR? And Tom Brady was likely to play no games until Bledsoe got injured, what's your point? That's just silly. He drops 2-3 wide open passes all year because as a rookie, he's thinking of his next move before securing the ball, and then catches everything thrown at him in heavy traffic like a magnet, and you think he has hands of stone? Ok... Look up Ivory's yards after contact. Patriots are a completely different thing because most defenses that play them spend most of their efforts on stopping Brady and their passing game. Decker has been solid this season, and would be much better if we actually had a decent QB. Vick was the best available QB in free agency, it is what it is. Good QBs generally don't become available. I don't think this means what you think it means.
Really? How many 100 yards games does he have compared to Harvin? I think Harvin way better then Decker.
That's not a useful metric of comparison. You want to ask different questions: 1) How is he compared with other elite or #1 receivers across the league, making close to his money (so we'll spare him the Megatron comparison). The answer is, he's one of the worst #1 WRs in the NFL. 36th in the league in catches, 40th in yards. You can blame a lot of that on the QB position, but there are some real stiff QBs throwing to guys above him - Buffalo, Oakland, Tampa and Tennessee all have receivers who outperformed Eric Decker; Houston has _two_. 2) How was the signing compared to other WR signings in the last couple of years (actually we'll just stay with 2014). Emmanuel Sanders was signed for less than half the money, and Braylon LaFell for a third. And that brings me to my next point... 3) Was that the best use of the Jets resources in order to build a winning team for 2014 and beyond? Why didn't they recognize the obvious weaknesses in other places instead of chasing a WR (especially an overpaid one, but still...) Oakland traded for Randy freaking Moss and they still sucked (and so did he, for that matter), because they didn't care about the QB position and building a good team. This is no different.
Is he supposed to throw the balls to himself? Geno and Vick have only passed for barely 2000 yards and 13 TDs combined. Last time Decker had less than 1000 yards and 10 TDs, he was catching passes from TIM TEBOW. See what's happening here? Decker is not enough, but Harvin/Decker/Kerley is a good start and the "we have no WRs" is no longer an excuse we can use for Geno.
I have no idea what you are talking about. but then neither do you, so that makes two of us. You are all over the map with your arguments, so much so that you are virtually incoherent. You misstate situations, effectively creating strawmen. For example, Milliner is considered a poor pick not merely becuase he got hurt this year. He also got hurt in his rookie camp after five surgeries, and more to the point got benched twice in his rookie year. Milliner in fact may not make any significant contribution going forward, and that is a legitimate concern. My point about the record is that it shows the Jets suck right now, after two years of handling by Idzik. How some pom pom waving rose colored glass wearing Dr. Pangloss such as yourself who can't make a coherent argument has the nerve to pretend to making fun of my position here is beyond comprehension. In other words, you suck at this.
