Would like to know where the Idzik got a plan people at?

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  1. jcass10

    jcass10 Well-Known Member

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  2. perpetualchange

    perpetualchange Active Member

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    Yeah the post was crediting Geno for being a starter, and you were just accepting it at face value because you could flip it into supporting your point. Like I said, selective amnesia.
     
  3. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    James Hasty said:

    Millner is like a TV Pilot, maybe he becomes something, maybe he becomes nothing.

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    Just like 99% of all rookies
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    Wrong!

    Millner is done for year two yet we still have to judge him as a rookie?

    Talk about grading on a curve.
     
  4. jcass10

    jcass10 Well-Known Member

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    The point is that the book is still out on him, just like rookies.
     
  5. HardHitta

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    We held out hope that he would, we waited... waited... and it never happened. Then this shit transpired.

    We were wrong... We were optimistic and he fucked us. All hope is lost.
     
  6. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    Nobody is giving him credit for that. But in a few years when our core players are resigned and we have flexibility to add to the roster with long term players you'll thank your lucky stars he didn't just go out and blow the cap space he made by cutting them on over priced mid tier players that wouldn't have made this team and this season much better.
     
  7. Big Blocker

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    Right now we have a few players who have been core players who are going to be increasingly problematic on a going forward basis. Ferguson, Harris, Mangold come to mind. To get to the point, it's not going to require big money to retain them at what they will be worth. It may even make sense to trade one or two of those guys.

    Then there are the younger guys who arguably are or could be the core going forward, medium to longer term. Those include the DL guys. Who else? Davis? Maybe. Who else? I'm having a hard time here.

    I just don't think all that much money is going to be needed and well spent on resigning players presently on the team who you would want to keep in a medium term basis. it might not even make sense to retain all the DL guys, either. Not all of them.

    More likely the cap space will be used to sign some FA's. So much for building through the draft.
     
  8. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    So your replying to things I never wrote?
     
  9. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    A head coach that's as good as gone.
    A GM that's right behind him.
    A pair of starting QB's that rank among the worst in the league.
    A defensive backfield that can't cover or tackle.
    25th in the league in yards per game.
    30th in the league in points scored.
    32nd in passing yards.

    Yeah...we're way better off.

    I need sunglasses.
     
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  10. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Lmao
     
  11. VaBchJet

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    When you are out of playoff contention before Thanksgiving, everyone should be fired.

    Sounds like a plan to me..
     
  12. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    Very true, but we have woody as the owner, don't be surprised if he gives everyone contract extensions..:(
     
  13. VaBchJet

    VaBchJet Active Member

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    I can't for one minute think that Woody likes what is going on. And if Kraft and NE come to town and put up a 50 burger on us, it will put him over the top. ;)
     
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  14. Geno007

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    Your 100000% right.
     
  15. Geno007

    Geno007 Well-Known Member

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    What happens if the Jets beat them?
     
  16. TNJet

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    It's 25 more starts than he should have had.
     
  17. Geno007

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    Yeah ok. Let me guess you think Simms should be starting?
     
  18. LongIslandBlitz

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    Its amazing to think about how good we could of been this season had Idzik not dropped the ball.He's the reason we are 2-11 and he's the reason he should be fired
     
  19. GangGreenBlues

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    Uh, taking us from salary cap hell to one of the best salary cap situations in the league?

    Drafting the best player in the 2013 draft with the 13th overall pick? Also drafting another 2-3 decent starters the same year (Aboushi, Bohannon, and Milliner if he can stay healthy in the future).

    Drafting a real stud TE in Jace Amaro in 2014 who is on pace to finish with a better rookie season than many Hall of Fame TEs in NFL history, despite being barely targeted in an anemic passing offense? Wouldn't be surprised if we get more decent starters out of the 2014 draft with more time (Pryor once he moves to SS which is his natural position, Dozier at guard).

    Pulling off two brilliant trades in less than 2 years, by trading for one of the best young RBs in the league in Chris Ivory for a 4th round pick, and then stealing Percy Harvin for a 4-6th rounder a year after Seattle traded a 1st, 3rd, and 7th rounder for him.

    Signing the #1 FA WR in 2014 in Eric Decker, and the #1 FA QB in Michael Vick.

    Not too shabby, eh? :)
     
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  20. GangGreenBlues

    GangGreenBlues Well-Known Member

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    Yes, anybody could've let the bad contracts end with time. But what you are missing is that Idzik has not added new bad contracts, which someone like Tannenbaum would have. You stay out of salary cap by giving out good contracts, not overpriced ones to DRC or the new version of Sanchez, Holmes, etc.

    That is your incorrect opinion. Idzik has not drafted terribly, although it is now too early to judge his drafts, we can already tell that his drafts are no worse than average NFL drafts. This myth of him drafting terribly comes from unrealistic expectations by fans who do not understand what a typical NFL draft success rate is. If you go in expecting that you will land 6 quality starters with 12 picks, you will be disappointed by any NFL GM.

    The bolded part is nonsense. McDougle played 3 games his senior year, and then got injured and was out for the year. So he missed less than one college year. Other than that, he didn't have any serious football related injuries in college. His other injury came from a scooter accident, and there were some minor ones like him bruising his knuckles in high school or wherever and he missed a couple of games. Considering his talent and football success, and how hard it is to get a good CB in the NFL, it was a gamble worth taking in the 3rd round.
     

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