What really separates the two are free agent signings. Mac sucked/sucks big time, while Idz, didn't sign much of anything. Overall the team hasn't prospered much at all from either. Idz didn't put us in position to be better, but he also didn't blow money on crap like Mac has.
Patriots, Cowboys, Browns all had interest in him in the late 2nd, early 3rd round. Also why the hell worry about what others do anyway, Jets seen enough to take him at 51 and it was a good pick. Give the kid some damn time.
One of the most underrated Idzik blunders was drafting Calvin Pryor over Brandin Cooks. I remember all the mocks had Cooks going to the Jets and with our need for a WR at the time it seemed like a no brainer. Fast forward three years and Cooks is one of the best young WRs in the NFL and Pryor is too slow and lazy to catch Jarvis Landry (who went in the third round) on a slant.
The larger loss in drafting Pryor was skipping over Carr for him and I guess Bridgewater even though I don't think Teddy Field Goal is a franchise quarterback. Carr threw for 12,843 yards, 113 touchdowns/24 interceptions on 66.7%. He was also 24-15 as a starter including a 20-4 record his last two seasons at Fresno State. Why the fuck would we pass on a guy like that? Maccagnan will have three players remaining on the roster (Skrine, Forte, Carpenter) from his two free agent classes that was signed for well over a hundred million dollars. He also badly botched the Richardson & Wilkerson situation in terms of their trade values and awarded Wilkerson a contract that will pay him $18 million next year and a disgusting $20 million in 2018. After that he's curable with only a $5 million dead cap hit. His free agent signings have been horrible, and his draft classes have yielded us the same amount of starters as Idzik's. Winters, Pryor, Richardson, Enunwa vs. Leo, Mauldin, Jenkins, Lee. Idzik sucked and obviously had more picks to work with but Maccagnan hasn't been equally as bad and left us with a crippled cap and an extremely old roster that's in absolute turmoil right now. Idzik would've had to spend the same money Maccagnan did. Would've been interesting to see what he would've done differently as he was in favor of a 4 year rebuild vs. Mac's Tannenbaum approach to building a quick winner with old players.
idziks drafting is what has this team currently in complete disarray, not to gloss over the fact the coach is a boob, the gm may or may not have a clue and the owner sucks, but idziks drafting absolutely massacred the team. and they are paying for it now and will for hte next 2 years. you cant just completely throw away a draft, even the fucking saints got ricky williams out of giving away their draft, idzik just gave it away for nothing.
This is true, but a 2004 draft class (Vilma, Erik Coleman, Jerricho Cotchery, & a Adrian Jones for depth) or 2006 draft class (Brick, Mangold, Leon, Eric Smith, Brad Smith, Drew Coleman) can almost instantaneously fix that. Pull 3 or 4 contributors on the offensive side on the ball out of one draft and that's a huge success.
Idzhik is far worse. IF we let go of Richardson we're looking at 1 starter next year: Enunwa. Every other pick has been dreadful, and because of his drafts its why the team is so devoid of talent.
How the hell do you know he'll only be a back up? Seriously just shut up for now, you sound dumb. All I see is crying on this board lately.
Iszik had about 13% success rate (people on roster) vs 92% for Mac.. Iszik screwed the pooch on drafts; thus, the dearth of talent on this team. I would also add the Winters is one of the better players this year contrary to what some posters expressed.
Ugh... The Jets obviously have a history of WTF draft moments. And that was one for me. The top 2 WRs were clearly Watkins and Evans based on predraft rankings, so we knew they'd be gone. There was a chance Odell would fall to us, and like you said mocks had Cooks available at our pick. Kelvin Benjamin was clearly a projected 1st round pick, with Marqise Lee and Landry also projected to go late round 1 early 2nd. Besides the top 3 ALL those guys were available at our pick and WR was a huge need for us. (Personally I liked Benjamin bc of his size, and was hoping to hear that was our pick, and at the time I thought the biggest shock for me to prepare for was them "reaching" for Jordan Matthews (2nd round projection) because of size. I would've been estatic with ANY of those guys at our pick. Man was that a let down and felt our draft was doomed after that... Even Stevie Wonder could've picked a top tier WR in that draft. Leave it to the Jets to draft a safety with Pryor who is "serviceable" at best. If safety was #1 on our scouts list HaHa Clinton-Dix was still available too, who picked off Wilson TWICE in the championship game to make the Pryor pick hurt even more.
Pryor looked a good pick last season. His performance in 2016 can only be an indictment of the coaching staff. I won't write him off yet but he's certainly resembled Eric "Bad Angles" Smith for most of this shithouse season.
I think Pryor has been a bust. I don't think he is a starting caliber SS in this league. He starts on this team because he is a 1st rd pick. Idk if some young buck came along next offseason, I think he can be pushed. Winters has improved and I like his nasty streak lately. So I'll give you 2 players. But I don't think Pryor is worthy of starting.
The ONLY starter Mac has acquired in two drafts is Williams. Darron Lee is a part time player and not one single draft choice would start for any other team mm in the NFL. Mac has basically sucked his two years in town.
