From the first 2 games, it doesn't seem like he improved at all. He is still throwing stupid INTs, not recognizing when there is underneath coverage on his receivers. But w.e it's only 2 games, i'll just watch and see if he improves throughout the season. I'm growing impatient with him though. He and Hunter were the only reason Jags stuck around as long as they did yesterday
Honestly, I'm not worried at all. He may not have the best stats, but he win games, and that's all that matters. Look at his playoff record and his performances in the 4th quarter and in the playoffs...he wins when it matters, so who cares if he's not an "elite" quarterback?
And what do you attribute Stafford and Freeman making accurate throw after accurate throw to? Both of those players look of receivers and plant their feet well and deliver the ball in the right place. Mark does it occasionally but then seems to revert back to the same old crap. Both have started less games than Mark in the NFL with less talent. when I watch them they are just simply better. Yes Brees had his SD years and Rodgers sat behind Favre. If you think Mark is going to become Rodgers in his 4th or even 5th year then don't hold your breath. I think some of it is the game planning and the play design but overall Mark is still making those same mistakes and throwing the ball right into defender's hands not looking guys off and going threw his reads. either way I'm not going to be satisfied with a Matt Hasselback kind of guy. I want the HOF elite guy, I want a dynasty, I want multiple championships. Consistent success. I hope he can do it, i really do. But I don't want to sit here and wait on him for the next two years. Expectations are high And if your content with waiting and waiting and waiting for Mark to get it together then i don't know what to tell you.
I do not see it; - Mark has improved on last seasons - He is not brees or rodgers and most likley will never be - He does not have to improve leaps and bounds this season or bust, he just have to be a steady top-10 performer in a couple of years, which he most likely will
We have the guy who has had the consistent success so far. You are suffering from highlight reel trauma and grass is always greener syndrome.
Only Jet fans will complain about their QB who takes them to the AFCCG two years in a row and has started 2-0 the next season. God forbid we were 0-2 I can't even imagine the clusterfuck of threads calling for Sanchez's head. Chill the fuck out and enjoy it, we're 2-0.
There is only one thing that matters. Winning a Superbowl. The kids been to back-to-back AFCCG's in his first 2 years. He's 2 and 0 right now. I don't care about his stats. JUST WIN :jets:
I would be worried about the running game. Shonn Greene needs to start running that ball a little bit better. Here is the line for him in the first 2 games. REGULAR SEASON STATS 26 75 2.9 12 1 Rushing Stats REGULAR SEASON STATS 3 13 4.3 7 0 Receiving Stats
Please tell me where you played football at a high level, allowing you to make comments on a QB's footwork...and by high level, I don't mean playing Madden at the Hard difficulty setting. And if you were the GM of the Packers, Rodgers would've been gone by now, since you can't wait for any player. this is why you fail.
I'm so sick of the Sanchez haters that I don't even bother anymore. This kid will bring us a SB, I don't know when but sometime during his time with our franchise he'll bring us a Championship.
I can't back this up with all you boys' fancy football jargon :wink: ...but yes I am worried. And I am not alone. I think the 'average' Jets fan (i.e. not the statisticians/fanatics that reside here) is a little concerned if not full-on worried. I can't even count how many times the past couple weeks I have heard from people "Hmmm.... your Jets aren't lookin' too good. You need a new QB." (or other words to that effect). Where last year it was just 'I hate the fucking Jets.' and 'Not looking forward to when we play the Jets.' Yes we are 2-0... and WOO HOO for that!! But that doesn't mean mean there isn't any writing on the wall that we may have a rough road ahead.
I'm mostly concerned that OL injuries could lead to QB injuries. Sanchez hasn't been given a lot of protection this year (2 games) so far. Hopefully they will game plan the offense with some quick throws as well as some roll outs and bootlegs to get him outside the pocket where he can make plays- and not take hits.
Sanchez has been very good for us and has great upside. This is a guy who came into the league very young with little college experience. The NFL is a mans league, let the guy mature. I think he is one of the really good young QB's. Stafford and Freeman may be a bit better right now but Stafford hasn't been able to stay healthy and both he and Freeman essentially started as Freshman. I think Sanchez was only a 1 year starter. If Sanchez turns out to be the third best of a very good group so what? Staford was a No. 1 over all pick and the staff simply liked Sanchez more than Freeman and were able to move up at a realitively cheap price. If Freeman turns out to be better and Sanchez turns out to be real good, I'm more than okay with that. There is also much more off the field pressure playing in NY than playing in either Detroit or TB.
I'm curious as to how you know whether the "6 ft 5 monster who can make every throw in any condition" can really do that when he's pretty much never had a real cold weather game?
Let me just say that I trust Sanchez as our starting QB, but I am not going to pretend that I do not have concerns. Those two interceptions yesterday were just terrible decisions; not the kind of decisions a 3rd year starter with 6 games of playoff experience should be making, especially against a jags team that will be battling for a top 5 pick in April's draft. I honestly feel that having started him immediately from the start of 2009 it was going to make it harder for him to learn and adapt to the NFL, because the team hand cuffs him and forces him to play a brand of football that a quarterback is not supposed to play just for the sake of limiting the mistakes, and when you do that you kill any potential for significant growth at a fast pace. Look at Freeman and Stafford, their teams basically said "screw it let's air it out" and let them throw the ball all over the field because their teams were often behind and had no chance of making the playoffs, and in the end this helped their growth because they weren't scared of making a few mistakes when they were throwing a barrage of passes every game. A stark contrast to sanchez who the Jets intentionally kept to around 20 throws a game or so. Let's not forget that Freeman arguably had a worse regular season statistically than Sanchez did and yet he made a huge leap in his sophomore year while sanchez did not, and I think that is because he was allowed to have a trial and error period where he could air it out where mark was not and is still not allowed to have such wiggle room in this offense. This team needs to make a decision on whether or not they want sanchez to progress and develop by leaps and bounds..but deal with the potential mistakes that come with it, or be content with inch by inch growth that is very slow but avoids mistakes at any cost even if that cost is having a lifeless offense which is really what we have although I hate to say it. Schotty needs to let Sanchez take risks, let him throw bombs every now and then, he has the arm to do that, we have seen him throw 50+ yard touchdowns and I did not see a single deep pass call last week or this week. Sanchez is not going to develop if you only let him throw slants and 5-10 yard outs, he will become a good slant thrower and a good out thrower, but he won't develop into a well rounded quarterback who is comfortable in all phases. To say we need a new OC goes without saying, but I think we equally need a new QB coach to help with his development because it is simply not happening fast enough for a 5th overall pick in the draft. With Sanchez we can narrow down the problem because he has all the physical tools, he has a respectably strong arm, he is mobile and has pocket awareness, he can throw on the run, he can do physically do everything a QB has to do. Psychologically he know he has the clutch gene, more so than any young QB today in my opinion. So what is the problem? The problem is the mental aspect of the position, and that has to fall on coaching because we know he is working hard, but I really have to call into question the approach the team is taking in how they groom a QB. It is easy to make a rookie QB a 17 TD 13 INT kinda guy, it takes real good coaching to go from that to elite status and thus far is does not look like Sanchez is moving in that direction but we will know by season's end.
While I think MS is going to be a Good NFL QB I just can't see greatness. Now, we don't need greatness to get to and win the SB...but we need to step back and realize if we get good QB play then we should be happy in that. I worry about his focus from time to time. It seems that unless his hair is on fire, 2 mins to go in a half he just doesn't focus at times. Case in point...the run where he needed to get out of bounds and he lets up...then takes a hit. Not the Lowry one...the first one. Get your A$$ out of bounds...don't run up there all nonchalant like and risk injury. He let up a good 3 yards to the sideline. That is a sign of NOT focused. I think an interesting experiment might be worth in the offing. I think they should run a 2 minute offense (much like the Colts) an entire game and see where that gets them. Dial up 2 plays per huddle and let him do a no huddle on 2nd downs. Line up and read the coverage and call a play. He seems to do quite well when given a "short" time slot to work in. One of the reasons he appears so clutch and a lot of our games come down to the last couple o' minutes in each half. "Shorten" the game for him and shorten the amount of time between each play. Light a fire...FORCE him to be focused. Just a thought for an experiment to see what that would get our Offense. Of course, repairing the line needs to be a priority or he's going to get killed and then all is a moot point.
Call me crazy but I thought he was baiting a hit for a 15 yard penalty. And greatness is a relative term; do I expect him to be Manning or Brady? No, I don't, that never should have been an expectation for Mark, but do I expect Roethlisberger/Rivers/Eli Manning - like numbers eventually? Yes I do, that is what is expected of a first round pick.
