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Out for the Season · Mar 8, 2006

Oh Yeah,
Puerto Rico 5
Netherlands 3
Bottom of the 6th

Out for the Season · Mar 8, 2006

kinghenry89 said:

Wow. That Panama/Cuba game singlehandedly convinced me that the WBC should be here to stay. It was simply amazing.

As for the US/Canada, I predicted that Canada would pull off some upsets before the tourney started. They really do have a very good lineup (though I didn't expect their starting pitching to be so good today.)

In any case it's not so huge a deal for the US, as long as they beat South Africa they'll be fine. And I don't see South Africa pulling off the upset. Mexico's gotta be pissed though.
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Gotta be careful, it could end in a three way tie

kinghenry89 · Mar 8, 2006

Refresh my memory on the rules--doesn't beating Mexico give the US a tiebreaker there?

Out for the Season · Mar 8, 2006

kinghenry89 said:

Refresh my memory on the rules--doesn't beating Mexico give the US a tiebreaker there?
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yes, but in a three way tie it is different,
imagine this scenario: everybody beats South Africa

USA def Mex
Can def USA
Mex def Can

who owns the tie breaker?
teams are selected by ERA and Batting Average

MSUJet85 · Mar 9, 2006

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (Ticker) -- Ivan Rodriguez of the Detroit
Tigers and Carlos Beltran of the New York Mets gave the
Netherlands a sample of their power.

Rodriguez and Beltran hit back-to-back home runs in the seventh
inning, giving Puerto Rico some breathing room in its 8-3
victory over the Netherlands in a Pool C contest.

With the Puerto Ricans (2-0) clinging to a 5-3 lead, Rodriguez
led off the seventh with a blast off Jair Jurrjens. Dave
Draijer came on for the Netherlands, but Beltran promptly
greeted him with a shot over the right-center field wall to
create a four-run lead.

Rodriguez finished 2-for-4 and scored two runs, while Beltran
went 3-for-5 for Puerto Rico, which pounded out 14 hits and
scored at least one run in six of the nine innings.

Puerto Rico starter Joel Pineiro of the Seattle Mariners worked
four innings, allowing only an unearned run and four hits.

Raylinoe Legito collected two of the five hits for the
Netherlands (0-1). The team's lone major league star is Atlanta
Braves center fielder Andruw Jones, who went 0-for-3 with a
strikeout.
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PUERTO RICO 8, NETHERLANDS 3

MSUJet85 · Mar 9, 2006

Garcia combines to two-hit Italy in Venezuela win
Associated Press

KISSIMMEE, Fla. -- Miguel Cabrera homered for the second straight game and drove in two runs as Venezuela rebounded from a loss in its World Baseball Classic opener with a 6-0 victory over Italy on Wednesday night.

Freddy Garcia struck out seven and allowed one hit in 3 1/3 innings for Venezuela, which improved to 1-1 in Pool D play and dropped Italy to 1-1. The Dominican Republic (1-0) was idle Wednesday and remained the only unbeaten team in Pool D.

In front of a raucous, partisan Venezuelan crowd, Garcia and three other pitchers combined on a two-hitter and struck out 11. Carlos Silva gave up a hit in 3 2/3 innings, and Rafael Betancourt and Francisco Rodriguez each pitched a hitless inning for Venezuela.

Italy's Mike Piazza struck out three times and briefly argued a call at first base after grounding out in the ninth inning.

Garcia cruised through the first seven batters but had to pitch out of a jam in the top of the third. A walk, a throwing error by Ramon Hernandez and a single by Tony Giarratano loaded the bases for Italy, but the White Sox pitcher struck out Frank Menechino and Frank Catalanotto to squelch the rally.

Venezuela jumped to a 1-0 lead in the top of the first when Bobby Abreu singled, stole second and scored on Cabrera's single.

Abreu added to Venezuela's lead with a run-scoring single in the bottom of the third. Italy avoided further damage when reliever Phil Barzilla got Victor Martinez to ground out to second with runners on first and second.

Venezuela added a run in the fourth, one in the fifth and two more in the sixth.

Martinez and Ramon Hernandez had two hits each for Venezuela.

Left-hander Lenny DiNardo started for Italy and allowed two earned runs and four hits in 2 2/3 innings.
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Venezuela 6, Italy 0

MSUJet85 · Mar 9, 2006

MEXICO 10, SOUTH AFRICA 4

PHOENIX (Ticker) -- Thanks to Jorge Cantu, Mexico still has a
chance to advance to the second round of the World Baseball
Classic.

Cantu went 3-for-4 with a homer and three RBI and Vinny Castilla
of the San Diego Padres added three hits and scored twice as
Mexico remained in contention with a 10-4 victory over South
Africa.

After having a breakthrough season for the Tampa Bay Devils Rays
in 2005, Cantu got off to a slow start in this tournament,
going 0-for-4 in Mexico's 2-0 loss to the United States on
Tuesday.

But the 23-year-old second baseman enjoyed success in this one,
plating the game's first run with a sacrifice fly in the opening
inning, giving the Mexicans (1-1) an 8-3 lead with an RBI
single in the fifth and capping the scoring with a two-out, solo
blast in the seventh.

Former major leaguer Karim Garcia led off the first inning with
a triple and scored before adding a sacrifice fly in the second
to give Mexico a 3-0 advantage. Adrian Gonzalez of the Padres
highlighted a two-run third with an RBI single and sparked a
three-run fifth with a run-scoring double.

Mexico starter Francisco Campos picked up the win despite
allowing three runs and four hits in four innings. Pablo Ortega
tossed the next two frames, yielding three hits but striking
out five.

Minnesota Twins lefthander Dennys Reyes struck out Nick Dempsey
with the bases loaded in the ninth to seal the win for Mexico,
which battles Canada (2-0) on Thursday.

Darryn Smith suffered the loss for South Africa (0-2),
surrendering five runs and six hits in 2 1/3 innings.

Brett Willemburg went 4-for-5 and Jason Cook delivered a two-run
triple for the South Africans, who take on the U.S. in their
final game Friday.
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MEXICO 10, SOUTH AFRICA 4

Cellar-door · Mar 9, 2006

Out for the Season said:

yes, but in a three way tie it is different,
imagine this scenario: everybody beats South Africa

USA def Mex
Can def USA
Mex def Can

who owns the tie breaker?
teams are selected by ERA and Batting Average
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Actually before ERA it's runs given up per inning in games against the other two teams you are tied with, which is bad news for the US as they gave up 8 to canada, for 8 total, while canada has 6 plus whatever they give up to Mex, and Mexico has 2 plus whatever they give up to Canada

Out for the Season · Mar 9, 2006

Cellar-door said:

Actually before ERA it's runs given up per inning in games against the other two teams you are tied with, which is bad news for the US as they gave up 8 to canada, for 8 total, while canada has 6 plus whatever they give up to Mex, and Mexico has 2 plus whatever they give up to Canada
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ok, so it is that way

Cellar-door · Mar 9, 2006

yeah, i just checked it, the US is eliminated if Mexico wins 1-0, 2-1 or 2-0, otherwise the US moves on, unless they lose to South Africa of course, but I doubt that

Out for the Season · Mar 9, 2006

Cellar-door said:

yeah, i just checked it, the US is eliminated if Mexico wins 1-0, 2-1 or 2-0, otherwise the US moves on, unless they lose to South Africa of course, but I doubt that
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that is a tough scenario, let's see what happens

Out for the Season · Mar 9, 2006

POOL B SCENARIOS
Mexico advances if:
• If it defeats Canada at 8 p.m. Thursday, Mexico advances to the second round

Team USA advances if:
• Canada beats Mexico on Thursday, and the U.S. defeats South Africa on Friday, as expected. If the U.S. loses to South Africa, then it's a three-way tiebreaker between Team USA, Mexico and South Africa, with only one team advancing. Of course, if the U.S. loses to South Africa, it might have bigger issues to address than tiebreaker rules.

• Mexico beats Canada on Thursday and Mexico scores three or more runs in that victory. Mexico and the U.S. would then advance based on the first tiebreaker, runs allowed for the teams tied. The U.S. has allowed eight runs its games vs. Mexico and Canada. Canada would then have allowed nine or more runs and would be the odd-team out.

Canada advances if:
• If it wins Thursday in its game against Mexico, it advances to the second round with a perfect 3-0 mark.

• Canada can lose Thursday's game and still advance, but only if it allows one or two runs in that loss to Mexico. If Canada allows three or more runs to Mexico, Team USA and Mexico will advance based on the tiebreaker of runs allowed and Canada would be the odd-team out.
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it is not easy to qualify, even if you win the first two games

Italian Seafood · Mar 9, 2006

Jake said:

Hahahahahah hells yea!!!! But I wish we had Harden and Gagne because our pitching will be exposed sooner or later. I don't think Canada will go very far, just caught US off guard.
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Gagne is awesome, you know he would've come in to pitch the 9th. Congrats to Canada, now go beat Mexico.

MSUJet85 · Mar 9, 2006

DOMINICAN REP 8, ITALY 3

ORLANDO, Florida (Ticker) -- The powerful lineup of the
Dominican Republic has not disappointed at the World Baseball
Classic.

Albert Pujols, Adrian Beltre and Moises Alou each homered as the
Dominicans clinched a spot in the second round with an 8-3
victory over Italy.

Los Angeles Dodgers lefthander Odalis Perez allowed three runs
in three innings, but Jorge Sosa of the Atlanta Braves
surrendered just one hit over the next four frames for the
Dominican Republic (2-0), which has hit seven homers in its
first two games.

Frank Catalanotto had an RBI single in the first inning and a
run-scoring double in the third to give the Italians (1-2) a
3-2 edge.

However, Placido Polanco led off the bottom of the third with a
single and Pujols, the reigning National League MVP, sent the
next pitch from Italy pitcher Tony Fiore over the left field
fence to put the Dominicans in front.

Beltre added a three-run blast - his third homer of the
tournament - in the fifth off Riccardo De Santis to push the
lead to 7-3 before Alou capped the scoring with a solo shot in
the seventh.

Fiore yielded four runs - two earned - in five innings in 2 2/3
innings for Italy, which needs Australia to upset Venezuela on
Thursday night to avoid elimination.
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DOMINICAN REP 8, ITALY 3

Italian Seafood · Mar 9, 2006

Beltre is a great hitter, I'm still pissed the Dodgers let him get away. He's an outstanding defensive 3B as well. I think he will have a big bounce-back year for Seattle.

Good to see Odalis is in mid-season form.

MSUJet85 · Mar 10, 2006

Mexico beats Canada, opens door for U.S.

PHOENIX, Ariz. -- Jorge Cantu homered and drove in three runs and Esteban Loaiza allowed a run in five-plus innings Thursday night as Mexico defeated Canada 9-1 to leave the U.S. team a win away from reaching the second round.

Erubiel Durazo also had three hits and Mario Valenzuela had a solo home run for Mexico, which dropped a 2-0 decision to the U.S. in the opening game of the World Baseball Classic on Tuesday.

If the U.S. beats South Africa on Friday, it will advance to the second round due to a complicated three-way tiebreaker based on runs allowed. In this odd system, the United States would've been eliminated before it plays South Africa if Mexico had beaten Canada by scores of 1-0, 2-0 or 2-1.

Canada starter Jeff Francis retired the first two batters in the first inning, then drilled Vinny Castilla in the ribs with a fastball. Consecutive doubles by Durazo, Geronimo Gil, Luis Alfonso Garcia and Miguel Ojeda made it 4-0 as Francis struggled through the 26-pitch inning.

Cantu made it 6-0 in the second inning with a two-run homer to left center, scoring Luis Carlos Garcia, who had opened the inning with a double.

Loaiza, meanwhile, faced just two batters over the minimum in the first four innings and gave up his first hit in the fourth when Stubby Clapp beat out a slow roller to second.
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Mexico 9, Canada 1

MSUJet85 · Mar 10, 2006

Cuba swamps Netherlands to reach second round
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SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico --Yoandry Garlobo went 4-for-5 with three RBI and Cuba beat the Netherlands 11-2 Thursday night to advance to the second round of the World Baseball Classic.

Osmany Urrutia also hit a three-run homer for Cuba (2-0), which faces Puerto Rico on Friday in a matchup of the only two undefeated teams in Group C. Puerto Rico also moved into the second round with Cuba's victory over the Netherlands.

Garlobo hit a two-run homer in the fourth inning to give Cuba a 4-0 lead.

Randall Simon had a two-run single to left in the sixth for the Netherlands (0-2), which will play Panama on Friday for third place in Group C. Netherlands outfielder Andruw Jones was 0-for-3 with a walk.

Cuba starter Ormari Romero tossed 4 1/3 shutout innings, allowing just two hits. He struck out five and walked one.

Netherlands pitcher Diegomar Markwell allowed four runs and six hits in 3 1/3 innings. Reliever Calvin Maduro gave up seven hits and six runs in three innings.

Cuba finished the game with 16 hits.
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Cuba 11, Netherlands 2

MSUJet85 · Mar 10, 2006

Escobar dominates as Venezuela shuts out Australia

March 10, 2006
CBS SportsLine.com wire reports

KISSIMMEE, Fla. -- Dominant pitching put Venezuela in the second round of the World Baseball Classic.

Kelvim Escobar helped shut down a feeble Australia lineup and Ramon Hernandez homered, leading Venezuela to a 2-0 win Thursday night in a game that was much more competitive than expected.

The victory sends Venezuela (2-1) and the Dominican Republic (2-0) to San Juan in a loaded group that also includes Puerto Rico and Cuba.

"It's a great feeling," said Minnesota Twins ace Johan Santana, who will start Venezuela's second-round opener Sunday against the winner of Friday night's game between Puerto Rico and Cuba.

"From now on it's going to be very interesting what's going to happen in Puerto Rico. But we're excited about it and we're looking forward to that."

Led by a pitching staff sprinkled with top major league arms, Venezuela allowed only three total hits in consecutive shutouts over Italy and Australia the past two nights.

"The pitching has been great. They all want the ball. It's making it tough for me when I get to the ballpark, because I see all these guys going to my office and they all want the ball," Venezuela manager Luis Sojo said. "But we've got to make a decision and tonight it was the right one."
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Venezuela 2, Austraila 0

Collingwood · Mar 10, 2006

at least we put up a fight against the venezuelans who should have whooped our a****

ShadeTree#55 · Mar 10, 2006

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