Tanny is a millionaire and is set for life. No matter what Tanny had to say Woody would still be the owner of the Jets doing whatever he wants. I wouldn't anticipate Tanny biting the hand that fed him.
I enjoy the spectacle of the darksiders who choose to believe every negative rumor they can find to reinforce their irrational and idiotic hatred of their own team. If you can't understand why its funny to watch massive overeactions based on nothing, then thats your problem. Keep freaking out every time somebody posts some unsubstantiated hearsay baloney about something that is utterly irrelevant. Feel free to voice your displeasure all you want, but the rest of us are free to voice our reaction to your statements. Feel free to keep hating the team that you supposedly root for if thats what makes you happy. :lol:
Im so damn sick of this never-ending Tebow bullshit. I honestly don't give a shit anymore and neither should any of you. Its over. Timmy T, youre a good person but for both our sakes hopefully you're not on this team next year and that trade is the only time I read another freakin Tebow thread in this forum.
Obviously, he's going to distance himself from the move. It blew up miserably, and people were blaming Woody all year for it. For all we know, it could have been Tannenbaum, it could have been Woody, it could have been both. I certainly don't believe Tebow was FORCED on Woody. Could Tannenbaum have done the Tebow stuff, asked Woody for his approval, and he gave it to him? Sure. Is it a possibility that Woody wasn't dying to do it, and he trusted Tannenbaum's judgment who convinced him otherwise? Sure. Bottom line, it was an organizational mistake. All three of the decision makers deserve blame, Tannenbaum getting the most. Remember how proud he was saying Tebow was the Jets' 4th round pick? Obviously, Woody will say what he needs to to a GM candidate.
What do you expect him to say if he did make the move to the potnetial future GM of the Jets? "Yeah I made the move and will force players onto you if you wish to take this job" ? At some point all 3 pieces agree to this move with Woody or Tanny having the final say.
I don't get it. People have been commenting all year about Woody calling all the shots - that's nonsense. It's like claiming the guy who owns the hospital makes the diagnosis and performs the operation. These are the things successful businessmen hire professionals to do, they don't make these decisions themselves. Does anybody have any evidence at all that Johnson has been intimately involved in any football decisions? He may very well have veto power; I'd be surprised if he didn't. But nobody broke the budget bringing Tebow in (especially compared to Favre) so why not rustle up some interest with PSL's still available? My real question is what was the dynamic between Rex and Tannenbaum in making the decision to get Tebow?
Who was the most likely to want Tebow the Jesusback? The sexual deviant coach with a Mark Sanchez Tattoo? The jewish GM cap specalist guy? Or the owner who is a conservative political activist, says we are in the media business and need to sell PSLs? I know who my money is on, regardless of what Woody says.
The whole "forced" begs the question, whose job is it to pick the players? Last time I checked you sent out a notice making it clear the GM has final say. Woody can you provide me with a list of players who were "forced" on you? So according to Woody at first he wasn't on board with Tebow, then he was, and now he's not. He sounds like weather-vane who changes his mind depending on the prevailing winds, if we are to believe what he says. So, saying this is supposed to comfort prospective GMs how their decisions will be treated? While I'm not a Tebow fan, his play was pretty much the same throughout the season. While the Tebow decision was publicity fiasco (for Woody) it actually had little impact on the season. Sanchez was the real problem. So Woody could you provide a timeline illustrating your various states of on/off board with Sanchez? One last question, who promoted Mr T to GM? Doesn't sound like an owner who leaves football decisions to the people he hires.
I've been trying to sort it out logically since the story broke and I can't find a timeline that points to anybody conclusively. The element I spent a lot of time dissecting for clues was the holdup in the trade when the Jets found out that they had to pay the Broncos some cash and take a cap hit as part of the trade. That development led to the trade being held up for nearly 24 hours as the Jets tried to negotiate the Broncos out of the payment and then eventually made the trade anyway, giving the Broncos cash and taking the cap hit. I'm thinking that if Woody wanted the deal he'd have just told Tannenbaum to make the deal when the issue arose. Instead we got the delay as the unexpected clause in Tebow's contract that caused his cash advance to be repayable upon a trade held things up. I'm thinking that Tannenbaum was scrambling at that point because his idea had a hole in it that was going to cost Woody money now and he was trying to find a way around that. If it was Woody's idea then things are a lot smoother at that point - he either tells Tannenbaum to make the trade or he tells him to drop it. However you could also make the argument that Tannenbaum was scrambling because the Jets were short on cap space and he needed to figure out if he could squeeze the deal in under the tight 2012 cap. You could further make the point that the Jets were reluctant to try to back out of the deal when the hangup was a clause in the contract that should have been evaluated before the deal was announced. Any way you look at it the deal was a bad deal but it is hard to figure out where the primary mover in it sat.
What I find troubling is the frequency of odd type of events that don't occur in other franchises. The fact that they didn't read tebow contract, that it became public, and the way it went back and forth after they agreed to acquire him was embarrassing. To me this lack of direction and haphazard decisions suggests Woody's involvement. No matter who you put the blame on its not a good way to run a franchise.
To fulfill the need to get competition for Sanchez in the QB position. I thought when Tebow was bought in, Sanchez should've been the happiest Jet because he should have realized that Tanny and Rex had his back all along, that there was no way Tebow can ever replace him, no matter how bad he did..and it played out just as I thought. Base on more recent disclosures, this episode suggest that Woody has really bad advisors and he isn't smart enough to know he is being taken. He appears to run an organization dictated more by politics than desire to win outright....basically folks looking out for themselves rather than for the betterment of the team and it shows.
If Tebow was forced on your owner by the GM........then why was a press conference held for a player he didnt want? That just seems odd to me........I mean who holds a press conference for a backup QB? You didn't see us hold one for Tavaris Jackson or Tyler Thigpen........the owner is definitely lying here.
Guy @ top of corporate ladder (within Jets organization) says this huge fuckup was done by the same person he just fired. By coincidence, that fired employee can't bad mouth his previous boss (that fired him) because there's so few employers in their industry. ***** Sorry, but I'm gonna find it hard to accept Woody's excuse. When Tebow was brought over the Jets held a press conference for what they claimed was their backup QB. Who the heck has a PC for their backup QB? It's obvious Jets organization was welcoming the Tebow attention with open arms.
Woody's obviously talking out of his ass but he's the got the #1 seat in that organization so nobody (within Jets inner circles) is gonna contradict what he's saying.
Of course to sell tickets! PSL's more importantly. C'mon, that has been his motivation ever since the stadium was planned. Any of us season ticket holders can tell you that, with all the games and sneaky incentives he's tried to help move PSL's (the color coded parking fiasco where in year one those without PSL's got the shitty parking, but that changed once upper deckers started bailing, and there have been other stunts) the Favre move was made to help PSL sales, and so was the Tebow move. No doubt about it in my mind. Woody stopped short of dictating how Tebow was used once he was here, but I'm convinced he was behind the move.
And if you believe Woody that he had nothing to do with Tebow and his statements putting 100% of the blame on Tannenbaum (joke), I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
The word "forced" is not mentioned by Johnson but by a butt hurt gm candidate. Johnson perhaps mentioned that the trade was not his personal idea and this gm candidate took it as the Tebow trade was " forced" on Woody. Also why is the media even allowed to release internal interviews for a position that ultimately didnt go to this candidate? Meaning why are they allowing someone who is not a Jet make questionable comments, oh yeah the Fkin Ny jets Beef not beat writers.
