With the Cutler situation going from bad to worse in Denver.

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  1. tom spicer

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    http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_11928484

    Im not a big fan of him only way I would do it if it was for our #17 pick straight up.
     
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  5. Mr Electric

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    Cutler to the Jets in a three-way deal between New York, Cleveland, and Denver actually makes sense.

    McDaniel would get a QB with Anderson or Quinn, the Browns will get some draft picks, and the Jets will get Cutler.
     
  6. Jets n Boys

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    http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/16/the-riff-between-denver-cutler-didnt-have-to-happen/

    There could be that reality. But I just don't see the Jets landing Cutler in a two way trade. The possibility of Quinn entering the equation makes a world of sense.

    I don't know if that prick in Cleveland would want to do it.
     
  7. Mr Electric

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    If the Jets have give up multiple picks in a deal, we should try to bring Tony Scheffler with Jay Cutler. The Broncos are reportedly shopping Scheff.

    We have a hole at tight end - Keller and Scheffler would give us two very nice options.
     
  8. nyjetsrule

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    god i want no part of Cutler. I mean he isnt the type of QB that Rex is looking for to run his system. Rex is looking for the quintessential smart QB who is going to be smart with the ball, not throw it away, and be perfectly fine with handing it off 35+ times a game. cutler wants to throw the ball, he wants to throw it deep, we dont have the type of recievers required to do that, also with his ginormous ego, he wants no part of game managing, and just handing it off 35 times a game, while he throw 15-20 at most.


    I still dont want any part of the Cutler fiasco in the making. Hell i wouldnt be opposed to being in the three way deal where Cleveland gets Cutler and we sweep up Quinn.... but thats never going to happen. in fact I would much rather have Quinn straight up because he would be so much cheaper its not even funny.
     
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    I would think Mangina would like the deal if it included Clemens or Ratliff.
     
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    Lets see...We ship our 1st and 3rd this yr and 2nd and next year to Cleveland
    Cleveland ships their (not our) first, and Quinn to Broncos.
    And Broncos surrender Cutler to the Jets and a 3rd to the Browns.

    Jets give up 09 first, third and 2010 second for Cutler
    Browns give up Quinn, 5th overall in 2009 for Jets 17th, 3rd round, and a 2010 2nd plus a third from Broncos this yr.
    Broncos get Quinn for 5th overall for Cutler and their 3rd.

    Thats a bit too complicated. I think Im gonna take a nap now...
     
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    Leon Washington running behind that Denver O-line blocking system would be a nightmare. I would think that Leon had more trade value than Jones. Not that I want to see him go, but it's something to think about. Getting an explosive young guy like that on his rookie contract.
     
  12. tom spicer

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    Cutler is a top 10 QB in the game if we can get him you do it no questions asked. We are not going to run 50-55 plays a game we could run 60 to 65 on any day giving us 35 runs & at least 25 throws. GET IT DONE!
     
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    http://www.nfl.com/players/bradyquinn/profile?id=QUI529720

    Whats so spectacular about Quinn? His 49.5 completion percentage? Or his 65.8 Passer rating? Or his 1-2 record? I'd take Anderson before I think about Quinn. Kellens is a better choice than Quinn since Kellen knows the system and has been in the league 3 yrs.
     
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    Jets don't need this head case

    Bob Glauber
    March 17, 2009


    Conventional wisdom suggests the Jets are a quarterback away from being a legitimate Super Bowl contender. And now that the Broncos' Jay Cutler is kicking and screaming and trying to force his way out of Denver, there's the solution: Give up a first-round pick for a 25-year-old Pro Bowl quarterback and - poof! - the Jets are in the mix for Super Bowl XLIII.

    Not so fast.

    Sure, it's an intriguing proposition, and the Jets certainly will do their due diligence on Cutler, as they would with any other player potentially available in a trade. But keep in mind that Cutler has thrown up the biggest red flag in this whole thing. So the Jets must factor in his behavior regarding his set-to with Josh McDaniels over the new coach's admission that he considered - considered - trading for Matt Cassel, his former quarterback in New England.

    Although there is fault to be found on both sides, Cutler's reaction to McDaniels' idea is a bit extreme. His demand to be traded because of it leads me to wonder whether he might react similarly if faced with other difficult circumstances with a new team and a new coach.

    What if he took exception to the no-nonsense Rex Ryan, who wants to win by playing defense and running the ball? It worked this past season when the Ravens went to the AFC Championship Game with Ryan's defense and rookie quarterback Joe Flacco.

    McDaniels still hopes to rectify the situation and keep his quarterback, but there's a chance that Cutler will continue to want out. If that's the case, the Jets surely will be among the teams to investigate.

    That's what teams do. They check out their options. They listen to offers. That's what the Broncos were doing last month when the Cassel option surfaced. It happens all the time.

    But Cutler chose to freak out that the Broncos would even ponder the idea that someone else might be worthy of consideration as their long-term quarterback. And now he wants to exit.

    Let me ask you something: Is that how you want your quarterback to react?

    Or do you want him to react by saying, be it publicly or to himself: So, Coach, you think someone else can do this job better than me? Fine. I'll prove you wrong, you son of a gun. Let's get to work.

    Give me the latter, please.

    Cutler would rather get the heck out of town than prove himself to his new coach. He's pouting because McDaniels didn't dismiss the idea of a trade involving a player he'd tutored with the Patriots the last several years. A player who never started a single game in college and who never pouted about being a backup to one of the greatest quarterbacks ever in Tom Brady. A player who took advantage of his first opportunity last year and went 11-4 in his first 15 starts since high school.

    Cutler? He has publicly bashed AFC West rival Philip Rivers, once proclaimed that he has a better arm than John Elway (what?!) and produced a 17-20 record. And he has appeared in zero playoff games.

    No, you cannot pin the losing record entirely on Cutler, because there are far too many extenuating circumstances that go into a football team's success. But you can't pronounce Cutler an elite quarterback either, not after only three seasons and an 87.1 career rating.

    Besides, the way you judge a quarterback isn't simply by the way he plays; it's by the way he carries himself in front of his coaches and teammates. And the way he reacts in a crisis.

    There's an "it" factor that goes beyond the touchdowns and the yards. And I just don't think Cutler has that "it" factor you need to win a championship.

    Not in this town, anyway.
     
  15. Jets n Boys

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    haha...u already have him in your avatar...Hell, I still have Favre, but atleast my one has a better chance of starting for the Jets than yours...lol
     
  16. nyjetsrule

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    well if you want a young guy with promise who wont cost us the entire farm. Quinn seems like a viable option to me. I still prefer to roll with what we have, but if we have to trade for a young gun, I prefer quinn over cutler. Heck the browns game last year where he got his first start, a game in which they should have beaten Denver, proved to me Quinn has what it takes to last in the league. So yeah I consider Quinn to be a way better investment than Cutler.
     
  17. Jets n Boys

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    If we are worried that two yrs from now Cutler will start to bitch, then trade is ass out of here... and get the value back you spent on him assuming he is consistent in his performance. No harm there. You can think of it as a trial if you like...
     
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    I really like Scheffler and he has a great rapport with Cutler. However, he wouldn't really complement Keller. They are pretty similar players in that they excel as pass-catching TEs that can stretch the middle of the field, but arent' as valuable as a blockers. Keller is a bit faster, and Sheffler a bit taller.

    Considering the Jets WRs aren't going to attract any attention from defenses, getting Scheffler would be interesting if the Jets roll-out an offense that has a 2-TE set at it corps with minimal 3 WR sets.
     
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    The Jets almost certainly don't have the juice to land Cutler (read: a starting caliber QB on their roster.) The smart move here would be to inject themselves into the trade talks to try and turn this into a 3 team deal to bring Cutler in. Either that or try and pick up whichever QB ends up getting displaced by him (maybe try to grab Derek Anderson on the cheap if the Quinn for Cutler rumors come to fruition.)
     
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    If you are comparing a QB to QB, then Cutler is far better than Quinn as of right now. But as for value, I agree Quinn is better but you get what you pay for. You wont get an elite QB for a 3rd rounder and you wont get a first rounder for a non probowl type QB.
     

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