Agreed. There are more ways to help the passing game than just getting WRs. We could also benefit from a stud tight end or a 'back that is dangerous out of the backfield. Not to mention the O line is far from perfect in pass blocking...
Because we can't accurately predict who will be the great receiver. We can't predict who will get injured. We can't predict that an Alshon Jeffery won't be there to take with that 3rd round pick. So what you do is to play the meta game. In the NFL that means assuming that people will get hurt. It means assuming that the jump from college to the NFL will prove to be too much for about half the guys selected. It means realizing that almost the same ratio of success and failure happens in the 1st round as in the 2nd and the 3rd, with the only difference being a slightly higher ceiling for the 1st rounders. It's better to trade down and take more people because in the end you will get more NFL players doing that and the injuries and failures of a few of them won't hurt the roster as badly. Trading up is the exact opposite. You get a slightly higher ceiling in return for a much lower floor. That floor being when the guy gets hurt or doesn't work out for some other reason. Then you have nothing to show for your efforts.
Because we need a lot more than just one WR who, by the way, is by not means a guarantee to be a success. If all the high end WRs are gone at our spot then we pick a high end TE if one is available at that spot (depending on value, of course) and pick a WR in the second round. I'd love to get one of those high end WRs as well, believe me I do, but not at the cost of another potential roster player who can contribute as well as a WR/TE who could be equally valuable to our team.
We could probably get one of Amaro or Ebron. The problem with listing Matthews and Robinson is that they'll most likely be gone by the time the Jets pick in the 2nd round. That is the problem with drafting later...in every round you miss out on great prospects at positions of need that you never get a chance to draft. You have to have a trading partner to be able to trade down as well. With the meaningless wins over the Browns and Dolphins, the Jets probably have cost themselves the opportunity to add a WR of any real quality in this draft, and they will be forced to overpay to bring in 2 WRs in FA.
Matthews and Robinson, I believe will be first round picks after the slew of Evans, Watkins and Lee are off the clock. Nothing wrong with selecting Robinson and Matthews if you grade them high on the draft board. They will be selected towards the end of the first round - so there is nothing wrong with taking one of them with the 18th pick. Both of those players I listed are savvy route runners, are always in excellent position to catch footballs and have good hands. They may not be as explosive as Watkins or as physical as Evans but they both have produced in college and have sound technique for their position. There is no such thing as meaningless wins in the NFL - I can't believe some of you think beating the fucking Fins is meaningless. We just knocked them out of the playoffs - are you guys even Jet fans? Rooting for the Fins to win SMH
I doubt he falls to us, but if Mike Evans is on the board you grab him. I would even trade up to ensure we're grabbing one of the big three WR's. We have a ton of picks and can afford it.
There is going to be about 10 real quality WRs in this draft that are worthy of being 1st -2nd rd picks. The thought that those wins are meaningless because it cost us 5-7 spots in the draft order is beyond laughable. Have you ever followed the draft before? Cause it sure doesn't seem so.
Like Deion, Gilbert is an excellent KR and PR so he would help the defense and special teams. That said, if we were to draft him with a guy like Lee still on the board, I would throw my TV out the window.
Sammy Watkins Mike Evans Marqise Lee Allen Robinson Jordan Matthews Paul Richardson Kelvin Benjamin Donte Moncrief Davante Adams Odell Beckham Jarvis Landry so much talent
We need a top flight WR, passing on WR and just getting a TE in the 2nd round isn't going to cut it. Mike Evans is a special player, I have no issue trading our third to move up to take him. I"m kind of sick of mediocrity at every offensive position. We need a perennial all pro at WR, a solid receiving TE to give Geno some weapons to throw to.
This. Not every WR is alike. Just like any other position. I'd much rather give up a late 3rd rounder to move up and get one of the most proven college studs then staying put and drafting a high level possession WR. Those moves wreak of mediocrity. You have to aim high if you want a SB caliber team. The likelihood of that late 3rd rounder panning out and being a multi-year starter for the Jets is much lower than moving up to get a star quality WR in round 1. You don't just trade down or stay put for the sake of having one extra pick. The Patriots have been doing that for years and look at how many of their picks haven't panned out lately. Their defense sucks and a large part of this is due to their stockpiling pick strategy. Quantity does not equal Quality. Is that extra 3rd rounder worth passing up a franchise, perennial pro bowl WR? Hell No. The Jets need impact players, not projects that take a few years to develop.
I'm looking to get at least two good receivers out if this draft. 2 in the first 4 rounds would be good.
Yeah, things have worked out so terrible in NE - what is it now 10 of the 11 AFCE champs, usually having a first round bye. Say what you want about BB and TB and of course it is in large part them. But the fact is they have players leaving and getting hurt all the time and they constantly are able to plug in guys to get the job done because they have depth and don't throw away draft picks.
You just made my point for me. BB and TB are exactly why NE is so good. Their recent drafts have been mediocre at best. And we're talking about trading one draft pick here. We're not talking about changing the whole draft model for years to come.
Taylor Lewan would be our future LT. In 2014, he'll server as OL depth & be ready to take over mid-season or 2015. I think D'Brick only has 1-2 years left & this provides Jets an opportunity to plug rookie contract into a very valuable roster spot. Don't think the big 3 receiving prospects will be available. So I'm willing to wait for best WR on the board in 2nd or 3rd round. Not so high on UNC TE prospect myself. Really like Mack and Carr but think they'll be off the board also. What do you guys think of HaHa?
behind tom brady and that offensive line, that team doesn't have much talent and they kinda stink at drafting i don't think we trade up and actually i'm pretty happy where we are picking. a top tier WR may not fall to us, but i'd be very happy if we got ebron or amaro. then in round 2 you can follow up with brandon coleman, jarvis landry, etc also don't count out some of the top tier WRs falling. alshon jeffrey and keenan allen were at one point top 10 picks and all fell
A third round pick is still a high pick and is not something you give away lightly. At pick 18 we will be able to pick up a high quality player at a position of need, I guarantee it. You never take options off the table, if the value is there go for it, but trading mid level draft picks is why our roster as been such a dumpster fire for the last several years.
The Jets don't have an all time great QB like Tom Brady and players like Gronkowski to build around, they can't use the BB model of drafting mediocrity to fill out the roster, we need star players on offense, real impact players. You more than likely don't find those in the later rounds, at least not at WR. What is the Jets fans problem with actually going for broke and trying to built a competitive team? The top 3 WR's in this draft are light years better than anyone else, and they'll be gone by the 18th pick. Either move up or the Jets aren't improving their receiving corps this year, at least not by the draft.
