You get it right most of the time but not on this one. While being a No. 1 pick at QB doesn't guarantee greatness, 1st round QB's totally dominate the SB landscape. These are 1st round draft picks that have won the SB. I may have missed one but these guys were all 1st round picks and they account for 24 SB rings. Joe Namath 1 Len Dawson 1 Earl Morral 1 Bob Griese 2 Roger Staubach 2 Plunkett 2 Sims 1 McMahon 1 Williams 1 Dilfer 1 Aikman 3 Elway 2 Bradshaw 4 Young 1 Big Ben 1 and counting
no, I want my QB to be good, but being flashy does not exclude that, just as being blue collar does not guarantee it either. your comment was simply a horrible generalization with no real world application.
The only one I can think of that you missed is last years winner, go figure.. But Big Ben was also a first rounder..
outstanding job. by these numbers, 1st round picks have won over 50% of the Super Bowls played. of course when you consider how many 1st round QB's have ever been drafted more are going to not win a Super bowl than win one, but history shows you that having a 1st round QB gives you about the same chance at winning one than not. it's simply a matter of drafting the right 1st round QB, not just a 1st round QB.
I am just curious, how many of those guys won the SB with the team that drafted them in the first round? and now with the cap and FA isnt that an even bigger concern. I dont want to pay a guy a ton of money for a few years to do nothing and then go out and test the FA market and eitehr leave or cost us even more. I believe that money is better spent elsewhere. I am a firm believer in D and a running game. I do not want a QB at 4.
Earl Morral, Doug Williams, Plunkett, Dawson, Dilfer and Young but I don't believe any of them left for any reason other than they were traded.
In response to your title: Tom Brady's been hurting the jets for 5 years and counting, and he's not even 30 yet. So it would only be natural to think that, yes, he's going to continue to hurt us.
"With those assumptions about the D and O Line, we'd have a better chance with Helen Keller as QB than Brooks Bollinger." HAHAHAHA! Wasn't Helen taller? I can't remember a draft that I've looked forward to more and props to all TGG.com members for providing the added anticipation -- the positive, the negative, the sensible, the extreme. Jeez, after Sunday, it's gonna be a long 2 1/2 months till training camp
Top Quarterbacks and Success Here are a look at several of the past Super Bowl Winning QB's and there draft status: Rothlisberger-10th pick (had great running game and supporting cast Brady-6th rd pick (won 2 superbowls on his back) Brad Johnson-9th rd (defense won that game) Trent Dilfer-6th pick (won because of great defense awful qb) Kurt Warner- UFA Elway- 1st pick favre-2nd round young-supplemental draft first pick aikman-first pick basically there really is no trend but only two of the top picks truly were good qb's that won the superbowl. This also shows that it is a crap shoot.
Winston... someone else hit it right on the head.... how many OTHER first rounders never made it, and secondly, how many of those guys won with thier original teams... obviously the older guys because the landscape of football was different, now with the cap, FA, and all the other crap that happens, the window for your first round QB to win a SB is much smaller... Ellis
What's all your guys problem with Eli Mannung? You all make fun of him like he is horrible and yet he is one of the better and up and coming QB's in the league. We all know we would rather have Eli instead of Chad at this point.
How many other 1st round LT made it? How many other 1st round RB made it? Teams rarely trade or let a great QB go for cap reasons they let them go because they are hurt or they aren't that good or they think they aren't that good. You rarely have an opportunity to pick up a game changing QB in FA. Drew Brees moved as an FA this year, why did he move, shoulder injury. You can pick up a very good player or a even a great player in FA to fill a need, it is a rarity that you get an opportunity to pick up a game changing QB in FA. A team that doesn't have a franchise QB in place is a team in search of an identity and will rarely if ever break out of the pack. Once you have a franchise QB it makes building a winner much easier. The team has a direction in place and a plan to follow that doesn't exist without the QB. You can't even plan your offensive philosophy without the QB on your squad.
I think the problem is the focus on a "game changing" QB. I want a guy who goes out and manages a balanced attack with a strong defense backing him up. I dont want a high risk, high reward guy who if he doesnt pan out, crushes our cap situation for years. how many LT "made it"? I think an awful lot of them contribute more consistently over the first three years of their contract. I would put money on the contribution aspect for defensive lineman. Are they game changers? maybe/maybe not, but they are in the game and contributing. I think Brees was let loose b/c Rivers was being paid too much to sit and hold a clipboard. This is a business, if I am an owner and I am paying a guy a lot of money, I want him on the field. Earn the keep. I dont need superstars, the team concept works. The Pats are weaker now that Brady has renegotiated, they cant keep some guys due to $$$. The Colts are always refiguring things to make due with Peytons cap #. I just dont like the risk/reward ratio in the business of football. As a fan, sure I want stars, but I want to win more.
The Pats are weaker now but if you take Brady off the Pats and plug in Drew Brees they don't get out of the first round let alone compete for a title.
I dont know that the Pats get out of the first round this year with or without Brady. I still believe a lot of the success of the Pats was due to their D and Vinatieri. Brady was a great story, and the guy can play(and it pains me to type that), but without that D and Kicker, I dont think we put him as high as people do now and I dont think he has all those rings, but thats off my intended point. Brady's low $$$ allowed the Pats to spend wisely in other areas. In the cap restricted game, I dont like the QB gamble.
