Will Sanchez fight Rex?

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  1. Br4d

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    I don't know to tell you the truth. Did Rex think he could handle the locker room factors here after admitting he lost the pulse last season? Yeah it's quite possible.

    Did Sparano want a great wildcat QB? Without a doubt. He's not sold on Sanchez anyway and has no investment in him.

    Did Mike Tannenbaum fail to perform the duties of a championship caliber NFL GM by telling Ryan and Sparano that he had just restructured Sanchez in a way that made getting Tebow more of a problem than a solution? Well, he clearly entertained the idea of Asomugha last season when CB was the last thing he should have been thinking about if he had his eye on the ball, so yeah it's quite possible that Tannenbaum failed to perform the duties required of him (again.)
     
  2. Organized Chaos

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    It would be great if Sanchez broke out this year, had a 4000 season but somehow Tebow got enough work to be trade bait. I think Mark has that in him, he's just got to have a good supporting cast, improve his accuracy and stop with the really dumb mistakes.
     
  3. Br4d

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    Sanchez is not breaking out for 4,000 yards in a run first offense with a secondary QB running the wildcat 10 plays a game.

    Tom Brady didn't crack 4,000 yards until his 5th season. Eli Manning didn't crack 4,000 yards until his 6th season. Drew Brees didn't crack 4,000 yards until his 5th season. Ben Roethlisberger? 6th season.

    We're back to the unrealistic expectations game.

    What we should be looking for from Sanchez next year is an increase in accuracy (again for the 4th year in a row). We should be looking for him to increase his yards per pass attempt up to 6.7-6.9. We should be looking for him to lower the turnovers.

    That's what most QB's who are going to succeed do after their wipeout 3rd season. And for a wipeout 3rd season Sanchez actually had a pretty good season.
     
  4. Organized Chaos

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    Yeah I do expect the increase in his accuracy, as for 4000 yards the league is different now. I think 10 guys threw for 4000 yards last season (I could be wrong on that). There is nothing special about 4000 yards really, but like you mentioned, I'll be happy if he can just cut down on the damn turnovers along with accuracy increase. That stuff is important, especially the turnovers.
     
  5. fozzi58

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    I think its safe to say that Mark Sanchez is better than Chad Henne is. Considering Henne had a superior WR (albeit lacking in lithium), he did not perform as well. Mark is a better QB coming into a system that will better utilize his abilities and should have a better team around him. I think Sparano being here will help improve Mark's abilities - providing they get him a decent WR and some protection. MS was stretching the field when Edwards was running for him with Holmes deceiving the inside. It was a good combination.

    Tebow in for 20 snaps may not necessarily mean he is under center for 20 snaps. Hell, if he's coming in as a TE/HB/RB/WR then he should be in on more than 20 snaps a game. The threat of the run on WR formations will really fuck up opposing defenses so long as they can pull it off.

    I've said it a couple times, if Tebow can haul in one pass from the TE position in a game or two, DCs will trying to figure out how to stop him every game and taking their focus off other potential targets.
     
  6. PJ4Ever

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    I hate when people just put thoughts into others heads. How do you know Sparano isn't "sold" on Sanchez? Maybe he loves him and that's why he came here. Like, you literally have no idea what Sparano thinks of Sanchez.
     
  7. #1 Jets Fan

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    Not if ur a run team first. Then 4,000 yards would be great.
     
  8. Big Blocker

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    Sources say Sparano was for the Tebow trade. We can listen to Ryan, Tanny and Woody claim til they're blue in the face that this was not a slap at Sanchez. But that is BS. A team that has a Qb who they are confident can get it done does not go out and sign Tim Tebow.

    It is no stretch to say at the very least that Sparano believes Sanchez can use some "help".
     
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    He will go into a shell. Unless Tebow teaches him to be a man.
     
  10. tommytom

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    based on last years performance Sparano is right Sanchez can use some help. But the help should be with competent wide receivers, better blockers and guys who can run the ball. And Sparano as an offensive coordinator seems like a joke in itself unless we considered the Dolphins a high powered offense.
     
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    this is a mindfuck of epic proportions
     
  12. Jets102812

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    Um gonna go with the over
     
  13. #1 Jets Fan

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    If that is true then why did Green Bay try to get Tebow? Do u think they are confident in Aaron Rogers?
     
  14. abyzmul

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    He didn't happen to mention what position Tebow would be playing on those snaps, did he? The reason Brad Smith was effective in the Wildcat, aside from his blazing speed, was because he was on the field more times as a receiver than as a WC quarterback. But he stunk as a receiver, so he was mainly a decoy with good run blocking ability.

    If they don't figure out a way to get Tebow on the field as a decoy, as in H-back, fullback or situational TE, they are beyond stupid because the WC loses it's surprise factor if it requires a personnel change every time you want to run it. Sanchez already said in his conference call that he doesn't like being lined up at receiver, which means he expects the coaches to work Tebow at an alternate position to avoid a personnel change, or Mark would be on the sideline instead of lined up at receiver.

    Tebow may get 20 snaps per game, but I'll be surprised if he runs above an average of 10 WC plays per game.

    edit: fozzi beat me to it, same basic sentiment. Not sure how I missed that post.
     
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  15. Don

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    That's a good point, nobody said he would be under center 20 snaps a game. I think of him as potentially being a Peyton Hillis type back, they are both about as fast and both weigh 240 pounds. Both could have been fullbacks in the league.
     
  16. LAJet

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    Well said. I'm hoping that Sanchez clicks with Sparano and sets the Offense on fire, assuming we fix the OL of course. Then Tebow will supplement the team in a variety of ways, potentially including special teams as a holder.
    Here is one for you. We give Sanchez the power to play more 2 minute offense where he is at his best (not having to look at Schotty and waste time outs and false starts)
    Otherwise we will be in a new 4 year mode, Sanchez, Tebow, new GM, new QB, start over.
    I'm getting to old for this shit.
     
  17. Br4d

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    At this point I would simplify the playbook and let Sanchez call the plays on the field. Give Tebow his package and let him call the plays on the field.

    Peyton Manning ran a 12 play offense where he could modify the plays himself by calling blocks and route changes at the line.
     
  18. nyj62

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    It is a start
     
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    I think when he said that, it rubbed some people the wrong way. He was acting like he had entitlement to the job.
     
  20. displacedfan

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    What I don't understand is that I though Rex's original quote was 5-20 times a game? There is a lot of leeway there and it isn't saying 20 times he will be on the field. Did I read the quote wrong or am I misremembering?
     

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