I'm not sure if he will see an opportunity this year, but maybe after sitting out a year I think he could get back in as a DC. He will probably even get a couple of HC interviews, but I'm not sure how that will pan. Depends on who it is. I could also see him maybe going the Pete Carroll route and ending up at a college. With his kind of "character guy" sort of mentality for building teams I think he'll attract some opportunities on that level. And just because he's bland for the press giving out team info isn't really a reason to discount his ability in the booth.. he won't get a booth gig because as of yet he's done pretty little. His resume, aside from a playoff shot once, is relatively thin.
That was Pitt's last loss and it kept them out of postseason. Oakland was playing much better at the time they beat them. it doesn't really matter who they beat anyway, they won 4 straight to end the season, they won more games in '09 than they won in '08, they have stockpiled tons of draft picks. Cleveland will be a really good team w/in 2 years.
It appears that Holmgren is trying to engineer a move to bring John Fox to Cleveland as the head coach. The thinking is that Holmgren and Fox have the same agent, an agent who was instrumental in Jon Gruden's move from Oakland to Tampa Bay, and that the Panthers want to be freed of Fox - without firing him. That would let them make Bill Cowher an offer he can't refuse to come in and be the man in Carolina. Carolina's owner Jerry Richardson has great respect for Fox and does not want to fire him, although he apparently thinks the Panthers have gone as far as they can with him.
Straight up Mangini should stay. He inherits a mess, improves by one game, acquires a boatload of draft picks, and there's talk about canning him? It looked bad midway through the year, but his players gave him a Gatorade shower after their last win.... I guess they don't all hate him.
Sounds like his players are actually supporting him, I think he will stay (for at least one more season).
no, 7 losses combined kept them out of the playoffs, you can't specifically point out a single one as the culprit. they could have lost that game and still made the playoffs had they not lost any of the others, so that loss wasn't any more meaningful than the rest. does that really need to be explained to you? what team has Mangini built successfully that validates such a claim?
It's the 3-4 vs the 4-3. Holmgren does not want to run a 3-4. He's always had a 4-3 team and his disciples, notably Andy Reid, have had 4-3's. He's interviewing Tom Heckert, the Eagles GM, to be his GM in Cleveland. Once he hires him he'll fire Mangini gently, using the 3-4 vs 4-3 dilemma as the deciding factor. Then Heckert and he will go out and find a good 4-3 defensively oriented head coach. Holmgren is going to consult heavily on the offensive side and the odds are that the offensive coordinator will be picked by him and Heckert with a buy-in from the head coach. The head coach will be able to pick the entire defensive staff and will own that side of the ball.
Holmgren is an offensive coach; I think he'd want more input on the offensive side of the ball than anything.... I'd say Brian Daboll is a lock to get fired.
The entire offensive staff is going to go with the exception maybe of George Warhop. The only part of the Brown's offense that functioned last year was the offensive line and the several runningbacks they enabled.
Holmgren is a GM now, not a coach. I feel he will not be able to differentiate between the two. He can get by with Mangini as coach for next season. If he is going to force feed coaches and philosophies he might as well start from square one and fire em all.
He's not GM. He's Czar. He's looking to hire a GM to handle the business of football and then he's going to play the Parcells role in trying to right the Browns ship by consulting heavily on the offensive side to fix the problems that have emerged there despite having a good young offensive line and at least two candidates to be the QB including a 1st round bust so far.
The official title for 'czar' is President of Football Operations, correct? Who is the NY Jets' czar? LOL
I believe that all the bullshit about his players hating him is mostly media driven for the most part. It was the same way when he was here with the Jets. They kept a lid on everything that was said so the media just took enormous liberties with how things appeared. I'm sure not everyone loves him a 100%, but the guy has Jim Brown in his corner and I think that says a lot. As for Cleveland players, when he came in and started drastically making changes, well folks don't always accept change well, even when they have forced on them regularly with coaching changes. There is always going to be some grumbling and head scratching going on, but by the end of the season people (players) were buying into his system. He's not as bad as people have tried to make him out to be.
Apparantly yesterday's meeting wasn't "The Meeting". Today's meeting is "The Meeting". See here. Holmgren: Mangini has chance to stay with Browns Posted: January 5th, 2010 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Cleveland Browns, Eric Mangini, Mike Holmgren Mike Holmgren opened his first news conference as Browns president with a joke, then got down to business, saying Tuesday that changes are coming in Cleveland. Do those changes involve embattled coach Eric Mangini? Holmgren said he hasn’t decided. After the former coach joked that he needed to grow accustomed to wearing a tie, Holmgren said “any organization that has change like this can expect (more) changes” and revealed he had a Wednesday meeting scheduled with Mangini. “I met with Eric briefly, but not ‘the meeting,’ ” Holmgren said. “… We have a meeting scheduled for tomorrow. “I asked him to think about a few things this evening. … I did give him a list of things to think about.” Holmgren also said that Mangini “absolutely” has a chance to win him over in the meeting and keep his job. Holmgren also called any speculation about coaches he might bring to Cleveland “premature” and pleaded with reporters who repeatedly asked questions about the situation to “let this all play out.” Mangini went 5-11 in his first season with the Browns. Mangini said Monday that he was proud of his work and called what he inherited in Cleveland “a mess.”
Come on, man. You have to give Mangini credit where it's due. Rex Ryan inherited a damn good, young roster. D'Brick, Mangold, Moore, Leon, Keller, Harris, Pace, Revis, Lowery, Feely, Jenkins, the Smiths, Pouha, Devito... That's a fucking great roster to start your career with. Don't suck off Rex because he brought in three guys... He's playing with Mangini's team right now, but he's doing things with them Mangini never could.
I wonder what Holmgren asked Mangini to think about overnight? Was it switching to a 4-3 with a defensive coordinator brought in to do the job and Rob Ryan out? Was it understanding that Holmgren was going to be the offensive czar and probably be the main influence on that side of the ball? Was it to think about what it would mean for Mangini to be head coach on a team where a 4-3 was installed by the new defensive coordinator and the offensive schemes were being planned by the new offensive coordinator with a heavy assist from Holmgren? I can't imagine that Holmgren thinks that Mangini might actually resign if he keeps pushing him. Lerner gave him a sweet deal last year and I'm sure he's going to collect every penny of it. It's a conundrum.
