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  1. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    It actually was well know. Bowles and Mac reportedly had a long discussion with him about his issues before offering him his new deal. Mac should have written some clauses in to the contract...
     
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    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    Since this goes back to when Rex was coach, it's all on Wilkerson.
     
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    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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  4. NCJetsfan

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    I disagree. Richardson was one screw up from being suspended for a year. Mo had been a much better player. In retrospect and hindsight, we should have kept Snacks and gotten rid of both Mo and Richardson.
     
  5. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    We can cut him in March and still designate him a post June 1st cut.
    Basically When a player is removed from a players roster prior to June 1st all his remaining unamortized bonus money immediately accelerates onto the salary cap.
    If designated a post June 1st cut , only the current years expense remains on the books after the player is released. The balance accelerates onto the following years salary cap.
     
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    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    Richardson was actually past the NFLs substance abuse protocol timeline and had a clean slate when traded. An offense would have counted as a first offense and been a 4 game suspension, same as it is for any player in the league. Not a 1 year suspension
     
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    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    So typically Jets
     
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    What a train wreck,,,the problem I have with this is that we as fans were unaware of what was going on ,so many of us wanted them to pay Mo . Most of US thought he was a standup guy and a leader, how could we have felt differently ? This said THEY / Mac / Bowels /The Jets knew about all these problems yet they gave him a contract and as if thats not bad enough I would have put as someone else said "all types of clauses to prevent this " So now our once promising line, the SONS are all gone and those are just more wasted draft picks , simply amazing . I can't wait for this season to be over !
     
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    Wilkerson goes down as another Rex Ryan overrated rant and rave player that frankly hasn't done much at all since Snacks left. Add it to the list with Coples, Pryor, and to some extent Richardson which in my view on the field is much better than Mo, but a head case off the field. Let's not forget our bust CB in Miller and one wonders what the fuck did we do right under the older regime.
    I will add in Railbirds defense that having Casey as the DC and Bowles at the helm has done nothing but destroy the defensive capabilities of the team and their motivation. HC and D.C. are way over their heads.
     
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    Its almost as if Snacks was the glue that kept them all straight...Once we let Harrison walk, it was only a matter of time before the other two imploded.
     
  11. TonyFtLaud

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    Fans should have been aware. It was never hidden. His arrest in 12 , the reports of him and teammates sneaking out to bars and strip clubs after bed checks during Rex's camps.
    The D line was playing well. Mo looking like a perennial all star , so fans simply didn't care. Now his play has dropped him to below average and everyone is in an uproar.
    The ones crying for high character players, we're the same defending him for his actions, based on his performance on the field.....
    His off field problems have always been there. Most chose not to see them.
     
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    SMH at what has become of Wilk man...

    If Leo ever follows suit I'll be devastated. Love that kid and what he brings to the defense.
     
  13. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    Leo seems to be a class act and actually a team leader. His actions on and off the field have shown as much. He also seems to love the game. Let's hope he continues on that path.
     
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    For those that say I never criticize Mac, you're wrong, and here's another example.

    I think that if they knew that Mo already had a recurring tardiness/attitude/discipline problem, the ONLY way that they should have even considered re-signing him was to put clauses in his contract that would have had increasingly draconian punishments with each tardy or missed meeting/practice/walkthrough, although the CBA probably severely limits a team's ability to do that. If they couldn't have included those clauses either because of the CBA or Mo and his agent refused to sign them, then they should have either tried to do a sign and trade deal or let him walk. This was a HUGE costly mistake by Mac. Bowles gets no blame in this unless Mac didn't want to re-sign Mo, and Bowles went to Woody and complained, and then Woody ordered Mac to re-sign Mo; otherwise, Mac simply shouldn't have re-signed him, unless it was a sign and trade deal.
     
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    Ok there is no way signing Richardson long-term for that kind of money would have been a good idea either.

    So I also have a very good impression of Leonard Williams and see him as somebody to lock up long term at this rate. Are there any reservations about his attitude and effort too??
     
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    One can not argue that Mac is to blame for this as he resigned him, thus having over arching responsibility. But I'm not at all convinced that Bowles did not have a lot to do with this decision, influencing the owner. As it was for Revis and the miserable second year of Fitz. Bowles has the propensity to live and die by the vets because he is insecure and incompetent. Mac dragged his feet for a long time and was crucified in this very site for not closing the deal with Mo, a real home grown unsung hero, super star and all that BS. I guess we never knew the dirt about him behind the scenes. Quite frankly, without Snack taking on two players he has shown very little.
    That is why the HC should report to the GM and not to the owner. An owner that knows nothing about football operations to boot. If that was the case, then 1000% of the blame lays square on Mac. With this approach, God only knows who is really pulling the strings.
     
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    Totally disgusted by this lying POS. In 2016, he bitched and moaned about how "loyalty" wasn't being rewarded and the Jets came up with $37 MM at the last minute before the signing deadline.

    The lying SOB showed his gratitude by turning into Albert Haynesworth.

    Not only do I not know why protection clauses were not included if the Jets had an inkling, I would think they would be standard for ALL CONTRACTS because who knows when someone gets the big $$$ and starts treating his career like a hobby instead of a job.

    Between what happened to our defensive line and using a #2 on Hackenberg (I keep reading that Houston gave false-signals about Obrien taking him in the 2nd or 3rd round and the Jets were the only ones to take the bait), I am really teed off.
     
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    How come we DIDN'T know ?

    With the internet, social media, and all the NY-NJ beat writers and guys covering this team in the largest media market in the country, how come his tardiness and other problems wasn't known ?
     
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    Tony I hear you and I can tell you I always wanted more of a "Raiders" mentality where I did not want choir boys but I wanted guys who could play, the problem is these guys are NOT choir boys but it seems that most of the guys on that list can't play either . Don't get me wrong I wanted guys that could play but that would also show up for meetings and stay out of squad cars , I also would like a coach and organization that DID CARE if your alarm clock did not go off or that did care if you were late for one meeting let alone years worth and that did NOT say " It happens , its not the end of the world " .
     
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    It might be wise to extend him this off season before releasing Mo. Would give the Jets some leverage in negotiations.
     
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    Damned good question. We appeared to have known everything bad about Richardson but nothing about him...as if it was intended that way.
     

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