Rex has a top five D with a few holes here and there. It is top five because of DeVito? Aging Bart Scott and Calvin Pace? ROLB by committee? The safeties? No. It is top five because the corners are excellent and allow the rest of the D to be better than the talent level really is. And the Jets did not win enough games last year becuase of the D. They did not win enough because the O is a bottom third O, mostly due to the Qb being ranked 23rd in the league.
Well I don't considering myself a "Revis hater", and I agree with your statement to an extent. You always have to have the players to make a scheme work, they're the ones executing it after all. Rex is smart enough to identify his strengths in personnel and maximize their value by adjusting the scheme. He didn't have any great corners in Baltimore but still always had a top 5 defense (exception of one year when they were decimated by injury and finished 6). Of course he had a couple of slightly above average players in Ray Lewis and Ed Reed amongst others there. Point being, he doesn't need a great corner to scheme up a top defense, but he probably does need some great players to work with to get it done.
Today's Bleacher Report From the Star Ledger Darrelle Revis’ five-year NFL career has been defined by brilliant play at the cornerback position, punctuated by a pair of contract holdouts. While the All-Pro has left the door open to the possibility of a third holdout this summer, underlying that possibility is one simple wish of his. “I want to retire here,” Revis said in an interview Thursday. “I think Mike (Tannenbaum) knows that. I think Rex (Ryan) knows that. (The Jets) drafted me, they gave me a chance, so yeah, I want to be here and never play for another organization again. If they feel that, if Mike feels that I’m that type of person to be here, then they will compensate me. If not, then it’s the business of it.” Revis emphasized that he has never said this offseason that he’s unhappy with the contract he signed in 2010, a seven-year deal that voids to a four-year, $46 million deal if he does not hold out. But he has refused to guarantee he will report to training camp in Cortland, N.Y., on July 26, fueling speculation. “People think I’m mad or unhappy. I’m not mad or unhappy,” Revis said. “It’s a thing where some things were said, and I think that’s what people are really focusing on. It was a Band-Aid type of contract, and they were going to redo it or renew it, and it hasn’t happened yet.” MORE COVERAGE OF JETS FOOTBALL • Jets stories and columns • Jets photos • Jets videos Revis’ current contract gave him the $16.25 million per-year average he was seeking over the first two years, including an $18 million option bonus earned last year. His compensation in 2012 and 2013 totals $13.5 million. Revis said he “will try to honor (his contract) the best way I can,” but he’s also seeking a multi-year deal toward keeping him a Jet for life. When Revis refers to “some things” that were said, he means Tannenbaum publicly calling the deal an “intermediate step” to keeping Revis with the Jets for his career. Revis said his representatives told him the Jets privately called the deal a “Band-Aid” as well. So Revis is waiting for the Band-Aid to be replaced, but for now at least, he seemed to put the ball in the Jets’ court. Star-Ledger reporters talk about Jets OTA Star-Ledger reporters talk about Jets OTA Watch video “That was the initial talk of it,” he said, referring to the idea of getting a long-term extension done. “But it’s in a place where if Mike and them want to move on it, it’s really on them, on what they want to do. And then we’ll go from there. We’ll negotiate it out if that’s the case, and if not, then it’s not.” The Jets have given no indications publicly that they’re open to renegotiating with two years left on Revis’ deal. Both Ryan and owner Woody Johnson deferred to Tannenbaum on the topic. Tannenbaum has said only that Revis is under contract, and the Jets look forward to accomplishing great things in 2012 with him. Revis said he hasn’t talked in a while to his agents about his contract, instead choosing to focus on organized team activities. Earlier this offseason, he said he did not believe the Jets had contacted his agents about his contract. Revis said he’ll sit down with his agents and “digest” scenarios to decide what’s best for his career. There is some fine print to consider. If he holds out, his deal will last three extra years at the modest price of $3 million per season, and he will lose the leverage of becoming a free agent after the 2013 season, with the team unable to franchise or transition tag him. He also has a $1 million bonus contingent upon reporting to camp in July. Revis is not sure if these will play a part in his decision. He did say his experience in 2010, when he suffered a hamstring injury that nagged until midseason and scratched him from two games, would not be a factor. While he admitted at the time that his 36-day holdout probably contributed to the injury, Revis said it’s impossible to gauge if or when injuries will occur. If a player is elite, he added, he knows how to be at the top of his game with or without training camp. Revis said his focus has been doing everything he can on the field to help the Jets “redeem ourselves” after an 8-8 season. Off the field, though, there is an elephant in the room. Will the Jets make a move? Will Revis? “I could come here every day and make a hassle, ‘I want to get paid,’ but if they don’t want to do that — if Mike doesn’t want to do that — then they don’t want to do that,” he said. “It might be that way. It might be they want to do it, but they’ve got to figure out the best situation to get it done.” He added: “I saw a report on (TV), ‘Oh, he’s making this much this year, and he wants a new contract.’ Who doesn’t want a new contract? You can ask anybody in here, but the thing is if I really said it or not. I never came out and said, ‘I demand a new contract.’ I know what situation I’m in. I’ve got two years left on this deal, and when the time comes for Mike and Mr. Johnson and my representatives to talk and hash it out and figure out what is best for this organization or what’s best for me, then we’ll move forward.” :sad: Jenny Vrentas: jvrentas@starledger.com; twitter.com/JennyVrentas
Good guy Revis is at it again. Demanding now a sit down. That he doesn't care what the fans think, that this is his career wer'e talking about... Guys only a multi multi millionaire. Greedy and Selfish.
It is simply that Revis is out of the stratosphere when it comes to comparison with other CBs - which is why Rex has the luxury to put #1 corner on #1 receiver and forget about it. In general, when you don't have that kind of elite CB, you put your #1 CB on the #2 WR of the opposing offense. (This he should be able to handle) As for the #1 WR, usually #2 CB and FS deep bracket him, providing double coverage. Also, this is how most of NFL teams function - meaning, if Rex has to, he can function with this setup. Revis is a luxury, not a must. *Unlike the beast of a pass rusher*
The point here is in response to those who say all he does is cover the opponent's #1 wideout. But even by your analysis what that really means is he ADDS one more player to the D, because with Revis you don't need to double cover that player. And I never said he was a MUST. That doesn't mean he's a luxury, either. What it really means is that the Jets' ability to cover both of the starting wideouts of the opponent adds flexibility and effectively an additional player to the rest of the D. While you obviously do not have to have that, it detracts greatly from the overall effectiveness of the defense if you took away that capability. This team was still a top five D last year. Who after Revis and Cro are top five at their positions? I don't even know if I would say Harris is. Pouha is above average, but not top five. Let's put it this way - without Revis and Cro this is not a top five D no doubt about it. Might not even be top ten. And the answer is not in a woulda coulda shoulda world that the Jets would be better off without so much money at starting CB, that could be spread out elsewhere. This FO would be able to pull that off? Over how many off seasons? How much has to be adjusted, how much time to bring players up to speed, that sort of thing? A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Remember that.
Without Revis, Jets have another $13M+ to spend - that could go to the LB corp handily. With good talents on DL, now if Jets can have good LB corp, that will produce much better results than having huge chunk of the salary cap tied up on the sideline player (that Revis is.) Seeing how the league is evolving into passing league, I wouldn't mind investing heavily on SS/OLB tweener type players either. The more Jets can have them, all the more better. It is not like Revis can neutralize the threat of Gronk and Hernandez like these tweener players can. In the end, Jets play in AFC East, and that means you are guaranteed to go against Brady and Co. minimum of twice a year. And, even without Revis, this defense will still be better than top 10. Just not as dominant as it was - i.e. top-3 dominant, but that doesn't mean this defense will fall below average. That's not happening.
Not as dumb as trying to kill him for holding out...eliminating any trade value. Just an FYI for our demented fan base.
Revis will never be worth more in trade than he is right now, also if he does demand a new contract he will cost the most. If he holds out and triggers the extra three years, make him sit or trade. He has already shown his word and signature means nothing. It's not like we would lose a team leader. He is a MEvi$!
Best defensive player in the NFL AND Best defensive player in Jet franchise history and unbelievably there are SOJFs calling for him to be traded Thankfully the FO is way smarter than SOJFS and will extend his deal in 2012 so that Revis will retire as a Jet before heading to Canton Sent from my SGH-T679 using Tapatalk 2
Trading Revis & choosing to do nothing with the money saved is the dumbest idea ever. If Revis was cut/traded the Jets wouldn't just sit back & do nothing else with the roster.
You lost me with the first sentence. Without Revis, wouldn't some of that money have to be used to get another CB? And don't give me that wishful thinking that Kyle Wilson is ready to replace him. Even if he were, you would then have to spend money to get a nickle corner. You guys just don't get it. This FO is not capable of putting together the series of trades you are talking about. THIS FO IS NOT CAPAPLE OF PUTTING TOGEHTER THE SERIES OF TRADES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. You do know what the saying a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush is about, don't you? And without Revis, where do you get the confidence that this would still be a top ten D??? I often think your posts have merit, but what is really behind it is anger at Revis because you fear he may hold out. Well I don't like that prospect, either, but that does not justify minimizing his importance to the team.
Sure get rid of Revis for first round picks or an outside LB. Nobody ever says who? Draft picks are great but far from Guaranteed. VG ring a bell how about Roberston? Revises don't come around very often and you do not trade them away unless the price tag just gets to high and then you get stars for him not just draft picks.
Say what? We beat Tom Brady AND Peyton Manning in the playoffs with that defense. Also Big Ben near the end of the season, Phillip Rivers in the playoffs.
why yes, YOUR AN IDIOT. I'm really sick and tired of people like this who think they know more than Tanny, Rex and Woody, go back to your 9-5 cubby hole.
Excellent points. Yes, the Jets did not win in all playoff appearances since Ryan got here. But they didn't lose them all, either. Even the Pitt loss was mostly because the team was flat after the win over NE. That and that the O did not score enough points, Sanchez's fumble returned for a TD, other errant plays by special teams and the O. It's a team sport, as many often forget.
As usual, neither statement is true. Revis is the best CB in the NFL, not the best defensive player. Joe Klecko had much more impact as a defensive player than Revis.
Trading Darrelle Revis rather than paying him what he deserves is right up there with trading Babe Ruth to the Yankees because the Sox owner needed cash to finance 'No No Nanette" on Broadway
